Do you want salary increase or incentives?

striver

11-29-2005, 07:29 PM

to all kabayan here in japan working in the office and alike, engineers, secretary, etc. just an advise if you want to have some incentives or a litlle bit increase on your salary. maybe some of you already knew that here in japan there is a lot of licensure examination, they call it here “SHIKAKU”. since tayong mga pinoy eh magaling sa english, try to take all the examination about it. the list are:

  1. TOEIC - this examination is very easy but japanese have difficulty getting a high score here. kahit high school graduate ka ata sa atin eh you will get more than a 9 hundred points. highest score is almost a thousand points i think. this is the famost english proficiency examination here in japan. some company give 50,000 above incentives when you have a score of more than 900 points here.

  2. EIKEN - this examination is come in grade. the most difficult is level 1. i prefer level 1 prep. kahit high school grad ka ata sa atin eh you will get pass on this. level 1 is very difficult. i tried this one but i failed. daming mga never heared before na words. galing sa thesaurus dictionary. so if you are not major in english better to review first. some company gives 50,000 yen fo level 1 passer, 30,000 yen for level 1 prep as an incentives.

  3. KOKUSAI KOKUREN EIKEN - this examination is conducted by unated nation. level 1 also is very difficult. maybe you can pass level 1 prep in one examination. some company also give credit on this. 50,000 yen for level 1 and 30,000 for level 1 prep.

  4. KOUGYOU EIGO - this examination is more on technical english. medyo may kahirapan po kasi the examination is english to japanese translation and vice-versa. so if you are not fluent in japanese and kanji wag muna. i prefer level 3 and below if you are not that good in japanese. the incentives when you passed this one is very high. some company give 100,000 for level 1 passers and 50,000 for level 2 passers, and 20,000 yen for level 3 passers.

  5. TOEFL - this examination is a little bit like to TOEIC. and the incentives given are almost the same.

so, why not trying. one more thing is when you passed, babalik ng company mo iyong ginastos mo. kahit iyong libro na binili as a reviewer. just dont trash the resibo. wala naman mawawala di ba.

also, if you wanted na di ka masyado madiscrimanate sa opisna mo. try to take the japanese language profeciency examination. level 1 will be the better. but you must be totally fluent in japanese and took more than 2 years studying japanese and know more than 1,000 kanji characters. this exmination also comes in level. conducted once every a year. mga december ata examination nito. if you passed level one, wala ng discrimnation ka sigurong mararamdaman.

to those who are interested, just pm me. i will discuss to you the details.

GOODLUCK PO!

pointblank

11-29-2005, 08:34 PM

Iba-iba siguro depende sa kumpanya. Pero sa tingin ko, kakaunti ang mga kumpanya na magbibigay ng incentive pay sa foreigner para pumasa ng exam for ENGLISH.

In the first place, there is an expectation na marunong kang mag-English. Hindi nila siguro bibigyan ang empleyadong Hapon ng bonus para pumasa ng “Japanese language exam for foreigners”.

But then again, if your company regards you as a non-English speaker, baka makalusot…

Funny ano, ang daming Pinoy na “native-English speaker” ang tingin sa sarili, gusto pang mag-English teacher sa Japan, so siguro huwag naman natin insultuhin ang sarili natin by taking an exam meant for basic non-native speakers.

By the way, the TOEIC is not the same as the TOEFL. The TOEIC is a relatively easy exam to test communication skills in English. The TOEFL, on the other hand, is a test of proficiency in English as a foreign language - this is a comparatively more difficult exam that is required if you intend to study in the United States. Of course, these exams are nothing compared to the English section of the SAT, which is a test given to native English speakers applying to universities in the US.

gabby

11-30-2005, 12:30 AM

Funny ano, ang daming Pinoy na “native-English speaker” ang tingin sa sarili, gusto pang mag-English teacher sa Japan, so siguro huwag naman natin insultuhin ang sarili natin by taking an exam meant for basic non-native speakers.

Hello Pointblank! It really beats me why you are so hot about Flips wanting to teach English in Japan. FYI, I have friends who are teaching English at a Private high School in Chiba and in Yokohama. They are earning a hefty sum. I really hate to disappoint you but my friend in Chiba says that there are already a number of Filipino English teachers hired by the Japanese government through JET programme. My acquaintance was working at a language school in Ginza before he got hired as an accountant at FEDEX Japan.

Tell me. What is so evil and degrading about Filipinos who have the competence to teach English in Japan? Why are you bellyaching?

thermometer

11-30-2005, 07:34 AM

Hello Pointblank! It really beats me why you are so hot about Flips wanting to teach English in Japan. FYI, I have friends who are teaching English at a Private high School in Chiba and in Yokohama. They are earning a hefty sum. I really hate to disappoint you but my friend in Chiba says that there are already a number of Filipino English teachers hired by the Japanese government through JET programme. My acquaintance was working at a language school in Ginza before he got hired as an accountant at FEDEX Japan.

Tell me. What is so evil and degrading about Filipinos who have the competence to teach English in Japan? Why are you bellyaching?
…if its true that filipino were starting to teach english here in japan…maganda po iyan…Naniniwla ako sa capacity ng filipino hinde nga lang tayo nabibigyan ng chance…besides totoo naman na ang tinitingan ng mga hapon eh yong native language speaker…but I know even native speaker nahihirapan maghanap ng job dito sa japan…and sometime d naman trabaho ang hanap nila but …lam nyo na yon…

docomo

11-30-2005, 12:32 PM

… masaya at proud ako pag may umaasensong kababayan natin ,nakakapagturo etc etc ,

… ang dapat lang na maging aware tayo eh dapat pagbutihin nating mabuti yang pinasok nating propesyon ng trabaho para di naman kahiya-hiya ,since dala natin yung name ng bansa natin , minsan (aminin man natin o hinde)ang pagkakamali ng isang kapwa pilipino nagiging pagkakamali na ng lahat …:slight_smile:

striver

11-30-2005, 06:08 PM

tama ka point blank, it depends on the company po. that is why bago ka magtake its better to confirm the rules and regulation of your company. but i think mostly ang nagbibigay ng mga incentives for this is yong mga corporation “KABUSHIKIGAISYA” and not the “YUUGENGAISYA” po. maybe there is a company na nagbibgay ng incentives when they pass the japanese examination. di natin alam.

why im advising you take the examination above is wala naman mawawala sa iyo but you will recieve an incentive for that. kailangan mo ang certificate na iyon to get the incentives. di ka naman nila bibigyan pag sinabi mo lang na marunong ka mag english eh. you must have a proof.

wag mo naman masyado ina under estimate kakayahan ng pinoy sa english pointblank. marami sa atin mgaling sa english. in the last data number 2 raw mga pinoy when it comes to pronunciation, i just wonder what it is now. :slight_smile:

neblus

12-01-2005, 05:31 PM

Striver, bakit puro language skills lang iyong sinali mo? Paano naman iyong iba…

(1) Oracle certification
(2) Microsoft
(3) Unix…

for IT… or how about others? I know one person na isang “Japanologists” and took the exam for those knowledgeable sa traditional Japanese - Kyoto or Nara as a historical destination, Kamakura as transit between East and West…

Meron ba ditong kumuha ng mga ganon?

striver

12-01-2005, 05:57 PM

Striver, bakit puro language skills lang iyong sinali mo? Paano naman iyong iba…

(1) Oracle certification
(2) Microsoft
(3) Unix…

for IT… or how about others? I know one person na isang “Japanologists” and took the exam for those knowledgeable sa traditional Japanese - Kyoto or Nara as a historical destination, Kamakura as transit between East and West…

Meron ba ditong kumuha ng mga ganon?

what i discuss here is yong kahit wala ka alam sa japanese language eh maari mong maipasang licensure only. as u said marami talaga. especially in IT. im also taking that. pero may kahirapan kasi more on technical sya and the japanese language na ginagamit is more on technical. but when you pass this 100% meron kang matatanggap na incentives. but be sure to check your company’s rules and regulation about it. :cool:

maribog

12-02-2005, 09:26 AM

idagdag mo na din yung Business Japanese Proficiency Test (JETRO),
di ko lang alam kung magbibigay ng incentive sa ibang kaisha pero samin oo :smiley:
twice a year ang examinations dito so maraming chance mag take and re-take…:smiley:

pointblank

01-11-2006, 08:33 PM

Sorry for reviving an old thread. I’ve just returned to Timog after a long blank…

Tell me. What is so evil and degrading about Filipinos who have the competence to teach English in Japan? Why are you bellyaching?

You seem to have missed the point of my post, or you’ve mixed it up with my posts in other threads. What I said was that Filipinos who claim to be native-English speakers (good enough to even teach English) should not insult themselves by taking an exam meant for non-native speakers just so they can earn brownie points from their employers. It’s just like a Math Ph.D. holder who feels elated that he topped an arithmetic exam for grade schoolers.

Your question answers itself: there is nothing bad about Filipinos (at least I do not refer to them using the pejorative label “Flips”) teaching English in Japan if they HAVE THE COMPETENCE to do so.

May I suggest that you go over the posts in this thread as well as in the other past threads that discuss the same teaching issue, then tell me how many Filipinos you honestly think actually have the competence, by your standards, to teach English properly. How can you not roll your eyes when you see something like “Please help me finding job to teaching English”? (loose quote)

idagdag mo na din yung Business Japanese Proficiency Test (JETRO),
di ko lang alam kung magbibigay ng incentive sa ibang kaisha pero samin oo
twice a year ang examinations dito so maraming chance mag take and re-take…

Yes, maribog, tama ka. I have much respect for Pinoys who study and try to pass the JETRO exam or the Nihongo Proficiency Exams. Kahit pa man walang financial incentive mula sa kumpanya, magandang personal goal ito para sa mga kapwa-Pinoy natin dahil nakaka-improve ito ng both career and personal life sa Japan. Di hamak na mas mataas ang respeto ng Hapon sa 'yo kung masasabi mong meron kang “Nihongo ikkyu”. :thumb:

docomo

01-11-2006, 08:40 PM

. I have much respect for Pinoys who study and try to pass the JETRO exam or the Nihongo Proficiency Exams. Kahit pa man walang financial incentive mula sa kumpanya, magandang personal goal ito para sa mga kapwa-Pinoy natin dahil nakaka-improve ito ng both career and personal life sa Japan. Di hamak na mas mataas ang respeto ng Hapon sa 'yo kung masasabi mong meron kang “Nihongo ikkyu”. :thumb:

… true… kaya sa mga nagsasabi na di ko naman kailangan itong test na to… sorry kayo …naipasa kow :stuck_out_tongue:

pointblank

01-11-2006, 09:05 PM

… true… kaya sa mga nagsasabi na di ko naman kailangan itong test na to… sorry kayo …naipasa kow :stuck_out_tongue:

Vongga ka day! Velcome to da klub.

Pero sa trulily lang, 95% ang ave. score ko sa ikkyu… prueba na masasabi ko ang “I love you” in Nihongo in 10 different ways, with matching keigo de gozaimasu. Now if I can only find someone to say it to… charing! :smiley:

adechan

01-12-2006, 08:33 AM

makisuyo naman po, any links in english for these examinations?

mukang kakailanganin ko po ang mga iyan

Dax

01-12-2006, 12:29 PM

Pero sa trulily lang, 95% ang ave. score ko sa ikkyu…
Wow ang galing! :eek: Idol! Ako 81% (324 out of 400) lang sa 1kkyu. 5 years na ako nun sa Japan. Baka kumuha ako ulit next year. Medyo duda ako na tataas pa hehe. Simulang magtrabaho hindi na kasi sumusulat by hand kaya nakakalimutan na ang kanji. :frowning:

adechan, ito ang link ng JLPT (Japanese Language Proficiency Test) o 日本語能力試験: http://www.jees.or.jp/jlpt/en/

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