Martial Law in the Philippines

fremsite

10-15-2005, 08:30 PM

is it true ? bakit parang pag nagbabasa ako ng online newspaper …
( philstar. com ) parang magkakaroon ng martial law sa atin .
any opinion about this ? gusto nyo bang magkaroon ng martial law
sa pilipinas ? again ? hmmmm…:frowning:

tower23ph

10-15-2005, 08:36 PM

Sabi nila mahirap daw ang naging buhay noong panahon ng martial law, but i think the only way to change the Philippines is by IRON FIST.

pip

10-15-2005, 09:58 PM

Iron fist is sometimes ok but not with a bogus president who stole her mandate!:mad:
Shes never a good president. She always long for power and that is what she does every single day. Eversince, no benefit was given to basic institutions like housing, health and education.. Damn her for putting the country in martial law. she is not even the legitimate leader:grrr::grrr::g rrr:. lets take her out of the palace!!! befor it gets too late…:order::slam:

houseboy

10-22-2005, 03:43 PM

Iron fist is sometimes ok but not with a bogus president who stole her mandate!:mad:
Shes never a good president. She always long for power and that is what she does every single day. Eversince, no benefit was given to basic institutions like housing, health and education.. Damn her for putting the country in martial law. she is not even the legitimate leader:grrr::grrr::g rrr:. lets take her out of the palace!!! befor it gets too late…:order::slam:

Ako, gusto kong matanggal ang ating Presidente. Kaso, kapag tinanggal natin siya, sino naman ang papalit? Mga pinili rin lang ng mangilan-ngilan na matataas at makapangyarihan?

Martial Law… Ewan ko kasi hindi pa ako pinapanganak nung mga panahon na yun. Sabi lang ng mga magulang ko, mahirap daw na masarap. Ewan ko lang kung ano ibig sabihin nila dun. Sa mga nakaranas na maisailalim sa ganyan, ano sa inyong palagay, makakatulong kaya yan?

Teddy

10-22-2005, 03:58 PM

Ako, gusto kong matanggal ang ating Presidente. Kaso, kapag tinanggal natin siya, sino naman ang papalit?

…Sex Bomb Dancers?:smiley: Joke lang:p

makulit

10-22-2005, 04:48 PM

…Sex Bomb Dancers?:smiley: Joke lang:p

Kilala mo pala ang sex bomb dancers Teddy-san.

Hindi ako aware na may possibility na magkaroon ng martial law sa atin.
I’d like Arroyo to stay as President. Wala namang pwedeng pumalit sa kanya sa ngayon.

lenske

10-22-2005, 06:48 PM

Ang gulo na sa atin noh:confused: imbes na magtulungan eh ganyan pa ang ginagawa .Sabi nga ng mga beauty contestants WORLD PEACE:D sana naman ay may peace na sa atin…pauwi pa naman ako next week then nakakatakot gumala…

fremsite

10-22-2005, 06:53 PM

Ang gulo na sa atin noh:confused: imbes na magtulungan eh ganyan pa ang ginagawa .Sabi nga ng mga beauty contestants WORLD PEACE:D sana naman ay may peace na sa atin…pauwi pa naman ako next week then nakakatakot gumala…

lenske dear … buti na lang di ako " beauty contestant " hehehe.,
gusto ko rin kasi ng world peace … kahit pinas peace lang , ok na .
oo nga daw , ang gulo-gulo na daw talaga sa atin ! kaliwa’t kanan
na yata ang rally :ohlord: grabeh… gusto ko ring umalis si gloria … kaso
nga lang … sino papalit sa kanya ??? :banghead:

camouflage

10-22-2005, 09:48 PM

Ask ko lang, meron bang naging mabuting presidente sa Pilipinas?
Kasi halos lahat ng inabutan ko na naging presidente eh ayaw ng karamihan, hindi ko tuloy maintindihan kung anong klase pa ng presidente ang gusto natin, Im sure pag nagkaroon ng mabuti,mahusay na leader ang Pilipinas ay marami pa rin ang hihila sa kanya paibaba! honttoni makutunni!!!:doh:

tower23ph

10-22-2005, 10:12 PM

marami sa atin ang ayaw sa kung sino ang namumuno dahil ang kagustuhan nila ang gusto nilang masunod. totoo naman e,being selfish. Kaya ako mas gusto ko ng iron fist na talagang magpapabago sa kung ano ang pilipinas ngayon. Martial law is good if the authority will not violates human rights.

Teddy

10-23-2005, 08:44 AM

Kilala mo pala ang sex bomb dancers Teddy-san.

Hindi ako aware na may possibility na magkaroon ng martial law sa atin.
I’d like Arroyo to stay as President. Wala namang pwedeng pumalit sa kanya sa ngayon.

Chihuahua! makulit-san:D Nakita ko sila sa isang mall sa Cubao at bumili din ako ng CD nila:D

Pareho tayo sa opinion. Wala akong masyadong alam tungkol sa pulitiko sa Pinas, pero I think she looks at least like a politician and acts like one kahit papaano kumpara sa nauna nyang mga presidente. Mukhang may malakas na loob siya bilang presidente kahit na sobrang liit yung katawan nya. Palagay ko ay halos impossible mapabuti kaagad ang economiya ng isang presidente nung walang cooporation ng people halimbawa pag kailangang itaas ang tax, hardwork etc. when really needed. Just like what JFK said, we should not just ask the government what they can do for us.
Dito sa Japan naman, matagal-tagal na ang economic depression simula ng bagsak ng bubble economy noong 1989(?). I don’t think this is a fault of the government only…

Hweeewww… I’m so hungry… Can anyone here feed me some good Filipino dish?:smiley:

pip

10-24-2005, 10:20 AM

GMA is a TRAPO (traditional politician), and all trapos should go to garbage. I was in a government institution for 6 years, a social service institution for that matter, and never was social service institution prioritized! not even a salary raise or even benefit for the poor Filipino masses who should have benefitted from it. Second, she is not even legitimate for the second time. The first time was a mandate forced to her since Erap was expelled by people power and the next time was when she STOLE the mandate by using her authority. She never had a gentleman`s word. In 2004, she said she was not running for presidency, and come elections she did. Now, a lot of people are asking her out but she refuses to and fires water cannons on them and impose the CRP!
I beg to disagree that she is indespensable. No one is! Even a mere Juan delaCruz can rule as long as he has the trust of the people and the sincerity to serve well. H e even would feel much for the masses which makes about 70-80% of Filipinos…

gabby

10-24-2005, 10:38 AM

I welcome with an open arms Military rule in the Philippines. I hope it is forthcoming. It is the best medicine for indiscipline that are so ingrainedin Philippine society.

Teddy

10-24-2005, 10:52 AM

Mukhang sobrang grabe yung situation sa Pinas…:frowning: Anong talagang kailangan sa Pinas para maunlad sya??? Anong kulang???

gabby

10-24-2005, 11:37 AM

Mukhang sobrang grabe yung situation sa Pinas…:frowning: Anong talagang kailangan sa Pinas para maunlad sya??? Anong kulang???

Strong government. Meaning a government that enforces the law and the makers and enforcers of the law should strictly and religiously follow them not to be exempted. If we can achieved a large part of this aspect of nationhood then success will be within grasp. Sad to say we are miles from that. With our lawmakers who arrogantly want to be exempted from the law they make and the enforcers as well. . .looks like it is really impossible. Ain’t it?

fremsite

10-24-2005, 11:44 PM

Strong government. Meaning a government that enforces the law and the makers and enforcers of the law should strictly and religiously follow them not to be exempted. If we can achieved a large part of this aspect of nationhood then success will be within grasp. Sad to say we are miles from that. With our lawmakers who arrogantly want to be exempted from the law they make and the enforcers as well. . .looks like it is really impossible. Ain’t it?

yup! yup !! true ka diyan gabby san :slight_smile:

crister

10-25-2005, 01:09 AM

I welcome with an open arms Military rule in the Philippines. I hope it is forthcoming. It is the best medicine for indiscipline that are so ingrainedin Philippine society.

siguro better consult muna tayo sa mga naka-experience ng Martial Law in the 70’s, i hope history will not repeat itself kasi kung mangyari yun eh nasa Pinas ako at wala ako dito sa Japan.

However kahit na sabihin natin na permanent ako mag stay dito sa Japan(which is impossible to happen) ang una ko pa rin ipapanalangin eh magbago ng ugali ang mga namumuno sa atin.

zpahc

10-25-2005, 08:13 AM

ok lang ipatupad ang martial law ng matuto ng disiplina mga hindi disiplinado sa pinas…
sana wag mag power trip ang mga militar…

Dax

10-25-2005, 11:34 AM

Strong government. Meaning a government that enforces the law and the makers and enforcers of the law should strictly and religiously follow them not to be exempted. If we can achieved a large part of this aspect of nationhood then success will be within grasp. Sad to say we are miles from that. With our lawmakers who arrogantly want to be exempted from the law they make and the enforcers as well. . .looks like it is really impossible. Ain’t it?
Gusto ko din ng strong government. Strict but doing what is right and good for the people. Like a father who disciplines his children.

Pero sa sitwasyon natin ngayon…mukhang imposible nga mangyari ang ideal. Ang daming demonyo sa gobyerno, pati na sa militar. Kahit sa simbahan ang dami! Hypocrites! Kung magkaka-martial law ulit, I’m afraid history will repeat itself.

What we need now is a good leader. Obviously hindi yun si GMA, nor it is De Castro which I think will be a worse president. Sino kaya?

We always blame the government: corrupt si ganito, corrupt si ganun. Pero ang iba sa atin naglalagay naman? May mga nagbabayad para lang hindi na mag-ROTC. Our church blames the government for not caring for the people. Pero sila naman walang tinutulong para ma-control ang population.

If we cannot find a good leader, why can’t we become good followers first? We can start by following simple rules: no littering, no jaywalking, no smoking etc. Wag “pwedehin” ang hindi pwede! Wag lulusot! Alam nang bawal wag nang gawin! Wag “bahala na” kundi pagbutihan ang ating trabaho/assignment. If the majority of us follows the rules, big or small, then someday we may be blessed with good leaders. Slowly but surely. And then maybe in 20 or 30 years umunlad na din tayo…

halloween

10-26-2005, 11:45 AM

Sa palagay ko mahihirapan si GMA na mag-deklara ng martial law kasi naman 3 grounds lang ang pwede nyang gamitin para maging constitutionally valid ito. Una to prevent or suppress lawless violence. Pangalawa, to prevent or suppress invasion at pangatlo to prevent or suppress rebellion. Eto ang pertinent na batas tungkol dito:

“T he President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of all armed forces of the Philippines and whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion or rebellion.” (Article 7, section 18)

Naalala ko ng mapanood ko online ang interview kay Enrile na nag-comment sa legalidad ng pagdeklara ng martial law. Sabi nya wala daw urgent need para gawin ito dahil ang mga rally at kilos protesta ay limited lang sa isang area ng Luzon hindi naman daw nationwide. Di ko maiwasan na di mapamura pag nakikita ko ang pagmumukha ni Enrile. Oo nga magaling sha, kahanga hanga ang talino dahil di kalidad na abogada pero aanhin mo naman ang talino kung ang karakter mo bilang tao at bilang Pilipino eh questionable.

Noong panahon kasi ni Marcos, Enrile was one of those personalities who immensely helped Marcos to declare martial law. Naalala ko pa may balitang ganto na on his way to a town up north, may nireport na ambush sa kanya. Pero alam naman ng marami na fictitious yon. Binigyan nya lang ng support ang bossing nya na may factual basis ang lawless violence na isang ground na pwedeng gamitin para maging constitutionally valid ang pagdeklara ng martial law. At ngayon eto sha at sinasabi sa TV at sinasabing wala naming urgent need para i declare ang martial law. Talaga nga naman oo, look who’s talking.

Isa pang dahilan kung bakit sha mahihirapang i declare ito ay kakailanganin ang approval ng kongreso. And by congress, we refer to both houses, the senate and the house of representatives. Oo nga at karamihan ng nasa House ay ka alyansa ni GMA eh pano ang nasa Senado, klangan din ng approval ng majority. Eto ang sabi sa consti. Same provison pa rin:

“ Within forty-eight hours from the proclamation of martial law or the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, the President shall submit a report in person or in writing to the Congress. The Congress, voting jointly, by a vote of at least a majority of all its Members in regular or special session, may revoke such proclamation or suspension, which revocation shall not be set aside by the President.”

At higit sa lahat, eto ang pinaka matinding obstacle para ma i declare ito- the power of judicial review. Pwede kasing i review ng korte kung meritorious nga ba at may factual basis ang martial law. Given the presence of 4 requisites, the court may declare it as either constitutional or unconstitutional. Eto ang weapon na ginamit ng karamihan noong panahon ni Marcos. Kabilang sa mga nag-question ay ang mga idols kong si Jovito Salonga at Diokno. Pero shempre dahil tuta na rin ni Makoy ang Supreme Court noon ay wala ring nangyari.

Maraming masalimuot na nangyari ng mag martial law noon. Lahat ng kalayaan na tinatamo ng isang simpleng mamayang Pilipino ay nasakal. Pinaka prominente na dito ang malayang pamamahayag.

I say no to martial law. History will repeat itself. Hindi natin kailangan baguhin ang sistema. In my opinion what we need is good and strong leadership. We are in dire need of someone whose character is unblemished and whom we can emulate. Sino nga ba ‘yon. Yon ay walang iba kung di ako. Oo, ako nga. Ako na handang tumulong at mag-lingkod sa inyo. Di lang ako pampamilya, pang sports pa. Kaya sa susunod na halalan…… … Charing! Joke lang po.

Seiously, siguro kung tumakbo si Bayani Fernando, iboboto ko sha bilang President. Napunta na ba kayo sa Marikina? Asawa nya ang mayor ngayon don though BF served 3 full terms there. Grabe, ang linis at maganda. Pati palengke nila maayos.

Teddy

10-26-2005, 11:57 AM

Is the military reliable and trustful enough para maging mas stable ang bansa?

gabby

11-04-2005, 02:51 AM

Is the military reliable and trustful enough para maging mas stable ang bansa?

That is really a gamble we should take if and ever they will step in and grab power. Military rule in the PI wont succeed if Uncle Sam is against it. Unless the Philippine leadership current or otherwise, continues flirting with China the U.S. might give her blessing to a military rule. The Philippines will be getting Chinese in the middle or end of this century unless we do something now.

Raiden

11-04-2005, 04:28 AM

That is really a gamble we should take if and ever they will step in and grab power. Military rule in the PI wont succeed if Uncle Sam is against it. Unless the Philippine leadership current or otherwise, continues flirting with China the U.S. might give her blessing to a military rule. The Philippines will be getting Chinese in the middle or end of this century unless we do something now.

What’s wrong about the Philippines developing a closer relationship with China or be influenced by it? We probably came from China anyway. Philippines - Wikipedia (Philippines - Wikipedia)

It’s not like that China will be communist forever. I believe that China will evolve from a communist country to an authoritarian capitalist country. Just like Singapore, but multiply it by a thousand. Maybe a little authoritarian regime by a nationalistic leader and government will cleanse the Philippines of the infection that exists within its current government and society.

gabby

11-05-2005, 12:28 AM

What’s wrong about the Philippines developing a closer relationship with China or be influenced by it? We probably came from China anyway. Philippines - Wikipedia (Philippines - Wikipedia)

It’s not like that China will be communist forever. I believe that China will evolve from a communist country to an authoritarian capitalist country. Just like Singapore, but multiply it by a thousand. Maybe a little authoritarian regime by a nationalistic leader and government will cleanse the Philippines of the infection that exists within its current government and society.

1.)Definitely nothing. But to the U.S. it is an alarming development.

2.) No doubt about it. The Chinese-Filipinos are from China. So are the Chinese in Japan,Singapore,Mala ysia and all around the world. Now that the mother land is very much awake and is getting stronger every decade, it will be easier for China to set up an empire. When a Hilerite will come to power in China, it is for sure will try to rule Asia and then the world.

3.) Heh he he . . . get yourself ready for a cultural revolution to be forced by the invading Chinese on the Filipinos. They will surely lock the entire country up and wash the Philippines of its western influences . Just like what I said before this wont happen in our time but in the middle or at the end of this Century.

NemoySpruce

11-05-2005, 01:20 AM

Bakit po tayo pagkakainteresan ng China? ang pinaka selling point ng pilipinas eh cheap skilled labor, and China has a larger and cheaper labor force. Chinas interest in pinoy economy would be taponan ng surplus goods nila… kawawa naman talaga tayong mga pinoy, niluluto tayo sa sarili nating mantika. Its time for us to wake up. stop dreaming and see the world for what it really is… Martial Law? would not change anything in our country. The reins of power will merely shift from politicians to military. palakasan at deals within deals pa din yan. kung may kilala kang militar, pabor sayo ang martial law. kung ang tito mo ay mayor, talo ka jan. ganun ka simple yun. kung ala kang kuneksyon, aba, mag apply ka na sa japan or sa kung saan. time for you to get out.

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