Tourist visa to work visa update

ganda_girl89

11-24-2005, 07:41 PM

last time,nai-post ko sa isang thread na susubok ang nephew ko na i-change ang 1-month tourist visa nya sa engineer working visa without going back to the phils.i promised na ia-update ko ang forum para sa inpormasyon ng iba natin kababayan.

update #1

dumating ang nephew ko sa japan last oct 15,2005.he was holding a 1-month tourist visa.nag extend kami ng tourist visa nya sa takamatsu regional immig bureau noong nov 2.
medyo pinahirapan kami ng immigration before nila tinanggap ang application papers nya.sabi nila,ibibigay nila agad ang 1 month pero we should explain kung bakit 3 months ang hinihingi namin.gumawa ako ng explanation letter at isinabmit kasama pa ang iba nilang hinihgi na dokumento.
last nov 15,dumating ang post card at nabigyan sya ng 3-month visa.

next target

he is planning to submit his application for CE before dec 7 and we are hoping he can get a result after 45 days.

striver

11-25-2005, 08:28 AM

hello ganda_girl! i think you are lucky. swerte yong napuntahan mo at yong taong nagasikaso sa iyo. i just also do that, i think its not depend on the reasons you submit but to the mood of people na tumangap ng papers mo. i try to apply for an extension of my friend visa’s in tachikawa near in my place, but then nila kami binigyan. then we try it in tokyo immigration po, ayon nabigyan kami ng one month extension. so talagang nasa taong tumatangap ng papers mo. although my sinusunod daw silang guidelines for that.

about your nephew, kung makakakuha sya ng engineer visa from tourist visa, thats good. marami kasi kang pagdadaanan sa pinas kung don ka kukuha. kasi don po ako dumaan. i get hired by some company here, then they sent me eligibility to work there. madali lang yon but iyong processing sa atin grabe. dadaan ka sa poea po at talagang check nila contract mo, then my seminar pa, medical certificate po. madali lang makakuha ng visa but yong processing sa poea, talaga namang ayoko na ulitin iyon. talagang tiyagaan lang. if dito sya makakuha, ligtas sya. but he need to report it in poea pag umuwi sya in case po.

i think para makakuha sya ng engineer visa is, dapat makakuha sya ng employeer here, mag apply na kamo sya. kasi may papers silang kukunin sa iyo from your employer eh. that’s what i know po. since engineer naman pala sya,
kahit makakuha sya ng OJT or anything related to training, i think wala ng problema po don.

good luck.

thermometer

11-25-2005, 09:14 AM

hello ganda_girl! i think you are lucky. swerte yong napuntahan mo at yong taong nagasikaso sa iyo. i just also do that, i think its not depend on the reasons you submit but to the mood of people na tumangap ng papers mo. i try to apply for an extension of my friend visa’s in tachikawa near in my place, but then nila kami binigyan. then we try it in tokyo immigration po, ayon nabigyan kami ng one month extension. so talagang nasa taong tumatangap ng papers mo. although my sinusunod daw silang guidelines for that.

about your nephew, kung makakakuha sya ng engineer visa from tourist visa, thats good. marami kasi kang pagdadaanan sa pinas kung don ka kukuha. kasi don po ako dumaan. i get hired by some company here, then they sent me eligibility to work there. madali lang yon but iyong processing sa atin grabe. dadaan ka sa poea po at talagang check nila contract mo, then my seminar pa, medical certificate po. madali lang makakuha ng visa but yong processing sa poea, talaga namang ayoko na ulitin iyon. talagang tiyagaan lang. if dito sya makakuha, ligtas sya. but he need to report it in poea pag umuwi sya in case po.

i think para makakuha sya ng engineer visa is, dapat makakuha sya ng employeer here, mag apply na kamo sya. kasi may papers silang kukunin sa iyo from your employer eh. that’s what i know po. since engineer naman pala sya,
kahit makakuha sya ng OJT or anything related to training, i think wala ng problema po don.

good luck.
I think not only in the mood of immigration office but maybe sa location din…I have experience na medyo mdali mag renew sa Shingawa tokyo compare sa ibang immigration.

I think mas madala ang renewal sa malalaking immigration dept compare sa mga maliliit na department lang…

Any experience on this?

lemonade

11-25-2005, 10:34 AM

next target

he is planning to submit his application for CE before dec 7 and we are hoping he can get a result after 45 days.[/quote]

you know your nephew is very lucky to have someone like you…not everybody here in Japan spend that ample of time to help…and to think nephew mo lang yan…

eh, yung iba nga anak na, ayaw pa tulungan…kahit kanda kuba na…haayyyy…naku iba iba talaga magulang sa panahon ngayon…

ganda_girl89

11-25-2005, 08:27 PM

I think not only in the mood of immigration office but maybe sa location din…

tama ka dito thermometer.parang robotics yung iba.sumusunod lng sa guidelines at di ginagamit ang sense at sarado ang tenga sa explanations.buti pa yung humarap sa amin,parang typical na family man ang dating.

eh, yung iba nga anak na, ayaw pa tulungan…kahit kanda kuba na…haayyyy…naku iba iba talaga magulang sa panahon ngayon…

natawa ako sa post ni lemonade.para bang buti pa yung ibang daddy,hindi KJ…yung daddy ko
KJ…lolss

i think para makakuha sya ng engineer visa is, dapat makakuha sya ng employeer here, mag apply na kamo sya.

actually meron na syang employer,may contract na,nasa akin na ang mga dox mula sa company at tapos na rin lahat ng mga explanation letters.medyo naghihintay na lang ng tyempo para isabmit sa shinagawa ang mga dox na ito. very obvious kasi kung agad agad ipapasa ito…baka makahalata sila.

adrian

11-25-2005, 11:16 PM

pag engineer working visa ba, kailangan ba na engineer grad ka?? any advise naman oh, tourist ako d2 , pending ang application ng extension, pag ba na extend, anu kaya pwedeng i apply para makapag work ako d2,satio ng isang medyo malaking gemba ang bayaw ko, it deals with electronics, willing syan tulungan ako pero he has no idea kung papano

ganda_girl89

11-25-2005, 11:35 PM

pag engineer working visa ba, kailangan ba na engineer grad ka?? any advise naman oh, tourist ako d2 , pending ang application ng extension, pag ba na extend, anu kaya pwedeng i apply para makapag work ako d2,satio ng isang medyo malaking gemba ang bayaw ko, it deals with electronics, willing syan tulungan ako pero he has no idea kung papano

basta grad ka ng bachelor of science at related o close sa wrk mo,pwede na yun.pm me na lang your questions kasi PBB na.

denganda

11-28-2005, 02:59 PM

Hello. Just curious. We plan to bring my husband’s nephews here on a tourist visa. What are the procedures para they can get a working visa? Does a company have to sponsor them first, how do they even go about looking for an employer na magi-isponsor sa kanila if they’re only holding a tourist visa?

We want them to come & experience living in another country to broaden their horizons, ika nga, pero if they get lucky, hopefully they can get a job. Di sila pwedeng mag-TNT, simply because we personally are against it, mas gusto ko legal ang status nila. Also, since nasa US Navy asawa ko, talagang di pwede kasi pati husband ko malalagot.

Nalilito kasi ako doon sa website ng Immigration Information. Parang lumalabas na they have to go back to the Philippines to apply for a work visa, eh if they can do it while they’re here, di mas maigi.

Any feedback on this will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance…

ganda_girl89

11-28-2005, 07:13 PM

[quote=denganda]Hello. Just curious. We plan to bring my husband’s nephews here on a tourist visa. What are the procedures para they can get a working visa?

para ma get ang WV,dapat mag apply ng cert of elligibility.para ma get ang cert of eligibility dapat…

  1. reqt mula sa applicant-dapat university grad.
    2.reqt mula sa company-PL statement,registrati on cert,tax payment cert.
    3.both- contract japanese and english.english ay gagamitin doon sa poea.
    4.others/additional -explanation letter why magwo wrk sa japan ang applicant and why hiring a foreigner yung company. company bisnes plan and/or pamphlet and/or company info.

Does a company have to sponsor them first,
kung doon sa tourist visa nila>>>no…kayo ang mag sponsor dito.but kung may employer na willing mag sponsor sa tour nila–better but it will be a longer and complicated process kasi explain pa yun kung bakit iisponsorin sila ng company?ang ang purpose?ano ang relasyon nila?showing of itinerary,etc.samant alang kung kayo,establish na ang relationship nyo at ang purpose.

how do they even go about looking for an employer na magi-isponsor sa kanila if they’re only holding a tourist visa?

you should explain this doon sa explanation letter how they met the company.

Nalilito kasi ako doon sa website ng Immigration Information. Parang lumalabas na they have to go back to the Philippines to apply for a work visa, eh if they can do it while they’re here, di mas maigi.

SOP ay yung uuwi ang applicant at i-apply ng visa ang COE na hawak nya.but in some cases,napapayagan na wag ng umuwi depende sa reason at explanation ng applikante.

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denganda

11-28-2005, 08:27 PM

Thanks ganda_girl89 sa info. Let me restate to make sure na tama ang pagkakaintindi ko.

If they are already here on a tourist visa, they need to get a certificate of eligibility from the company they wish to work for. Then with that & other documents, they will either have to:
a) return to the Philippines with the certificate of eligibility & apply for a working visa, or if they’re lucky
b) process the working visa dito mismo sa Japan without having to go back to Pinas.

Di pa rin clear sa akin though how they can even look for a job kung tourist visa holder lang sila. How did your nephew go about looking for a company/job habang tourist visa lang siya? Do you know of any companies in the Yokosuka area or Kanagawa prefecture who look at tourist visa holder applicants?

Thanks uli in advance for any info you can give.

ganda_girl89

11-28-2005, 09:09 PM

If they are already here on a tourist visa, they need to get a certificate of eligibility from the company they wish to work for. Then with that & other documents, they will either have to:
a) return to the Philippines with the certificate of eligibility & apply for a working visa, or if they’re lucky
b) process the working visa dito mismo sa Japan without having to go back to Pinas.

tama… except doon sa part na COE na kukunin sa company.sa immigration ina apply at nakukuha yun.isasabmit sa immigration ang mga dokumento na nasabi ko at yung application form.pag lumabas ang COE,mag aapply ng visa sa isang embassy ng japan.kung sa jpn embassy sa manila mag aaply,dadahin ang COE,passport at cert of graduation na issued ng decs or ched.

Di pa rin clear sa akin though how they can even look for a job kung tourist visa holder lang sila. How did your nephew go about looking for a company/job habang tourist visa lang siya? Do you know of any companies in the Yokosuka area or Kanagawa prefecture who look at tourist visa holder applicants?

medyo mahirap nga sa isang tourist visa holder ang maghanap ng work.kadalasan sa mga ganitong cases ay may relatives sila na tumutulong sa paghahanap ng wrk at documentation.yung wrk na nahanap ng nephew ko ay dahil sa tulong ng brother ko na may sariling bisnes sa jpn.ipinasok sya sa company ng kaibigan nyang japon.
sorry…wala akong alam na naghahanap ng aplikante sa kanagawa area.

striver

11-29-2005, 07:01 PM

i just have an additional information baka sakaling makutolng to others. actually i just applied for a job here nong nasa pinas pa ko thru the internet. i submit my application sa isang company na nakita ko and luckily they have some interest on me, so after some examination and interviews thru phone, tinanggap nila ko. so the question is how i get here? processing na pinagdaanan ko po is the following.

  1. the company i applied in requested my TOR and diploma for eligibility application. sabi nila iyon ang kailangan ng immigration. to show na talagang graduate ka and your course is related sa job description na pinagaaplayan mo raw.

  2. after waiting some days, and submitting my resignation to my present company, eligibility arrived on my home. yon pa lang ang binigay sa akin. since wala ko alam, i go to poea, asked kung ano ang mga kailangang papers. i go to NAME HIRED window as i remebered, that window is for those applicant na nakakuha ng job on their own at walang agency na dadaanan. meaning direct hiring po. they asked for the contract of my job will be here in japan. iyon ang pinakailangan po. the contract will show your salary, working hour, bonuses, some hoken, and details of your job description. they need it in english. so nag request ko sa company here in japan. then they sent it to me.

  3. balik na naman sa poea, with my contract, eligibility, at some papers like nbi, passport, birth certicate, barangay clearance etc. na maari nilang kunin. nakakapagod kasi pabalik balik. then they approve it. but one more problem, you must get medical certificate, then attend sa seminar nila. POS ata tawag don. after passing all that. they well give your COE.

just a reminder, eligibility is not mostly needed in POEA, kailangan po yon mostly when you applying for visa. nong nag apply ako non, almost 4 days lang nakuha ko na. ang bilis gulat nga ko eh. then the COE is needed at the airport immigration po. pag wala ka non di ka makakaalis. meaning di ka raw dumaan sa poea. it is also needed for travel tax exemption po.
i remember na may kasabay akong guy na di nakaalis dahil wal syang COE. ingat for this.

so, kung sa pinas ka mag aaply po ng engineer visa, the above will be your route. get an eligibility here in japan coming from the company you will work for, then get COE from the POEA for immigration pass.

kung ang problem mo eh san ka makakuha ng company na magbibgay sa iyo ng elgibility. just surf the internet. iyon ang ginawa ko. but to be sure na makakita ka ng work here kahit na sa pinas ka mag apply, you must know japanese language. chances are sila pa hahabol sa iyo. experience ko before eh, lahat ng inaplyan ko eh interesado sa kin, so pick just pick up the best at that time. marami rin sa kin tanong kahit mga friends ko, sabi ko magaral ka muna japanese language at ako mismo mag babaker sa iyo.

now, for those person here na may tourist visa and wanted to change it in engineer visa, what i knew is you must apply for change of visa status. so for the engineer visa application, you will need mostly the “労働条件通知” ROUDOUJOUKENTSUCHI, it is also a contract. the format will be base on the company you will work for. the contents will be your salary, bonuses, vacation, job description, hoken, etc. which are related to your job description. pag nag aaply ko ng extension eto lang din sinasubmit ko this time. what i knew is they contact the company na nakalagay don sa contract na sinubmit mo. to confirm that it is true or not. yon lang po siguro, if they need something sasabihin naman sa iyo eh. kahit na kararating mo lang dito as a tourist you can apply for that i think.

so kung dito ka sa japan nagapply ng engineer visa, the problem will be pag uwi mo. i think there is a need to report in poea. what will be the processing? siguro mas better kung tanong ka don. but if you wanted na di ka na dumaan don at gusto mong maakabalik agad dito, wag ka na pagapply ng travel tax exemption sa airport sa atin. bayaran mo na lang then tuloy tuloy ka na. iyon ang ginagawa ko. pag umuwi ako, di na ko punta sa poea. sometimes sa airport na lang ko kumukuha. sometimes naman nagbabayad na lang ko ng travel tax. but if you wanted na mawala ang mabusising processing na to, apply for permanent visa here pag matagal ka na. that is my plan next year. para labas masok ka na lang at wala ka ng poea reporting. GOODLUCK PO!

denganda

11-29-2005, 08:22 PM

Thank you so much ganda_girl89 & striver! You cleared up a lot of things for me. Hopefully maging lucky ang mga nephews-in-law ko when they come here.

ganda_girl89

11-29-2005, 08:43 PM

COE-certificate of eligibility.galing ito sa MOJ/BI sa japan.maaring dumaan lang sa company sa japan dahil sila ang nag-submit ng application.

OEC-overseas employment cert.galing sa POEA/OWWA regional offices.

striver

11-30-2005, 08:17 AM

COE-certificate of eligibility.galing ito sa MOJ/BI sa japan.maaring dumaan lang sa company sa japan dahil sila ang nag-submit ng application.

OEC-overseas employment cert.galing sa POEA/OWWA regional offices.

thanks for the correction po ms. beautiful. same letters kasi sila eh,
arrangement lang pinagkaiba. thanks again.

ganda_girl89

12-03-2005, 09:39 PM

last time,nai-post ko sa isang thread na susubok ang nephew ko na i-change ang 1-month tourist visa nya sa engineer working visa without going back to the phils.i promised na ia-update ko ang forum para sa inpormasyon ng iba natin kababayan.

update #1

dumating ang nephew ko sa japan last oct 15,2005.he was holding a 1-month tourist visa.nag extend kami ng tourist visa nya sa takamatsu regional immig bureau noong nov 2.
medyo pinahirapan kami ng immigration before nila tinanggap ang application papers nya.sabi nila,ibibigay nila agad ang 1 month pero we should explain kung bakit 3 months ang hinihingi namin.gumawa ako ng explanation letter at isinabmit kasama pa ang iba nilang hinihgi na dokumento.
last nov 15,dumating ang post card at nabigyan sya ng 3-month visa.

next target

he is planning to submit his application for CE before dec 7 and we are hoping he can get a result after 45 days.

update # 2

kahapon,dec 2,nai-submit na ng aplikante ang application for COE nya sa shinagawa.nabigyan sya ng application acceptance number.we expect result in 45-60 days.

change of plan

unfortunately,di na matutuloy ang plano ng aplikante na makapag change ng tourist visa to wrking visa with going out of japan.
pagkatapos kwentuhan ng mga pinoy sa matsudo,chiba kung gaano kalungkot mag-isa sa jpn kapag pasko dahil uuwi kami na mga kamag anak nya,na homesick yata at biglang nagpapa book ng flt pauwi.he will be going back sa phils sa dec 7(nauna pa sa akin…lols).sa phils na lang daw hihintayin ang COE nya.yakkk…:frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

miles

12-04-2005, 09:19 AM

striver, ang galing ng explanation mo, at binigyan mo ako ng idea, although marami pa akong dapat itanong sa yo, I pursue my plan first to study nihongo language, nihongo wakaru kedo josu janaii yo… sana willing kang tulungan ako.:slight_smile:

adechan

12-04-2005, 10:42 AM

ganda_girl89 and striver maraming salamat sa mga informations

and ganda_girl89 thanks for starting out …

we’ve been thinking na papuntahin muna dito ang sister ko as tourist then change to work …

pero as i read striver’s post … mukang maganda iyong direct hiring

by february next year we will start the process my sis wanted to go back here and work as caregiver … she have no problem on japanese language because she had taken up two years course of japanese here in japan.

Thank You very much for this thread.

Ic3C00l

01-13-2006, 01:42 AM

kasi i’m planning to study in japan(particularly in Gifu) ask ko lang sana kung gaano ba katagal bago ka mabibigyan ng certificate of eligibility? kasi nagsubmit na ako ng application last year last week of october pero habang ngayon wala pa

thankls

3rdy

01-13-2006, 01:56 AM

Striver grabe nasa name mo na eh nag strive ka talagang tumolong. Got loads of info here, thanks Godness sa yo Striver at sa lahat na nag share ng experiences at time.

striver

01-13-2006, 08:58 AM

striver, ang galing ng explanation mo, at binigyan mo ako ng idea, although marami pa akong dapat itanong sa yo, I pursue my plan first to study nihongo language, nihongo wakaru kedo josu janaii yo… sana willing kang tulungan ako.:slight_smile:

your welcome po! just pm me. im just one click away. your correct, better to study japanese language first. bata ka pa naman eh. try to get japanese examination there in the philippines po. :slight_smile:

striver

01-13-2006, 08:59 AM

Striver grabe nasa name mo na eh nag strive ka talagang tumolong. Got loads of info here, thanks Godness sa yo Striver at sa lahat na nag share ng experiences at time.

your welcome po, wag masyadong purihin nakakalaki kasi ng puso. baka sumobra eh sumabog po. he he he:D

striver

01-13-2006, 09:02 AM

kasi i’m planning to study in japan(particularly in Gifu) ask ko lang sana kung gaano ba katagal bago ka mabibigyan ng certificate of eligibility? kasi nagsubmit na ako ng application last year last week of october pero habang ngayon wala pa

thankls

san ka ba nag submit ng application mo? here in japan ba? if you submit it at your own at wala kang supporting document like document from the company, baka di ka pansinin. by the way, ano bang certificate of eligibility ang inaply mo?

Ic3C00l

01-13-2006, 10:09 AM

sa philippines po, pre-college visa po yung inaply ko, sinubmit ko po lahat ng requirements sa school po na papasukan ko complete po yun may NBI clearance,I.T.R., bank certificate, N.S.O. birth certificate & etc… mga gaano ba katagal ang processing time? & pano ko macoconfirm na may sinubmit nga talaga yung school na inapplyan ko na para pre-college visa para sakin?

ganda_girl89

02-19-2006, 01:54 AM

update # 2

kahapon,dec 2,nai-submit na ng aplikante ang application for COE nya sa shinagawa.nabigyan sya ng application acceptance number.we expect result in 45-60 days.

change of plan

unfortunately,di na matutuloy ang plano ng aplikante na makapag change ng tourist visa to wrking visa with going out of japan.
pagkatapos kwentuhan ng mga pinoy sa matsudo,chiba kung gaano kalungkot mag-isa sa jpn kapag pasko dahil uuwi kami na mga kamag anak nya,na homesick yata at biglang nagpapa book ng flt pauwi.he will be going back sa phils sa dec 7(nauna pa sa akin…lols).sa phils na lang daw hihintayin ang COE nya.yakkk…:frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

Update # 3

dumating na nga pala yung COE ng nephew ko noon pang jan 11. halos 1 month ang processing.nakapag apply na rin sya ng working visa (engr)sa manila at sa monday na malalaman ang resulta.sayang at umuwi sya…although na tried ko na ng ilang beses,maganda sanang malaman o ma test kung always posible ba talaga na makapag change ng engr visa ang isang may tourist visa nang hindi umuwi.
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KaLaBaW

02-26-2006, 09:21 PM

Thanks Striver for the info, just want to ask kung what site ka naka hanap ng job,
im here now in kyoto and naghahanap ako ng job, thanks!

PLS GIVE ME ADVISE!!!

Last 1995 to 2000, I studied junior high to Senoir high, but after that I went back to phils due to family problem, (hehehe, sutil daw kasi ako)
But nag ka work ako sa phils as Japanese interpreter sa medyo kilalang company here in Japan for almost 4 years. Last year nabigyan ulit ako ng chance ng mama ko to go back here to work kasi napaka hirap nga naman ng buhay sa pinas( I know everybody knows that):slight_smile:

Im here now in kyoto but this coming march malapit na ma expired visa ko, we went to BI in Kyoto to extend my visa for 1 year but 3 months lang binigay nila sa akin, to make it short, di na ako kargo ng nanay ko dahil lampas na daw ako ng 20 years old (now 23 )(mou miseinan janai!!!)

What kind of Visa do I have to apply since I have a merit na nandito sa japan mother ko?

thanks!!

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