WaZ
12-01-2005, 04:15 PM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db? 
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs
thermometer
12-01-2005, 04:20 PM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db?
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs
Hi Waz…yup thats true…boring nga dito sa japan not unless you have someone with you here… Nong wala pa ako GF dito I used to spend time on mountain climbing then hanap ng sports club mahirap naman din gumala kasi mahal dito sa japan…
but kung pipiliin ko is pinas or japan… pinas pa rin ako…mas andon po yong kasimplihan po ng buhay comapre here in japan…
mz.anna
12-01-2005, 04:20 PM
PHIL PA RIN,KAYA LANG KUNG MAY NEGOSYO.KAYA LANG NAMAN NANDITO TAYO DAHIL SA PAMILYA NATIN O SA MGA ANAK,PILIPINAS PA RIN AKO KASAMA NG PAMILYA KO.
DJchot
12-01-2005, 05:44 PM
WaZ, saturday and sunday, pumapasok din ako. pumapalya lang ako pag may gimik or EB. 
tiyaga lang muna. mas boring naman kung nasa bahay ka lang pag weekend. kung magliliwaliw ka naman, lagas naman yung kalaparan mo. kaya, OT na lang ako. online pa ko sa TF at YM hehe.
kahit siguro may gf ako diyan dati, baka OT pa rin ako even weekend sa dami ng load ko. doble kayod na lang. trabaho sa umaga, trabaho pa rin sa gabi 
gabby
12-01-2005, 05:45 PM
PHIL PA RIN,KAYA LANG KUNG MAY NEGOSYO.KAYA LANG NAMAN NANDITO TAYO DAHIL SA PAMILYA NATIN O SA MGA ANAK,PILIPINAS PA RIN AKO KASAMA NG PAMILYA KO.
Anna Chang nabibingi ako sa iyo! Baka naman small letters puwede!
Ganda nang avatar mo ha. Type ko!
Cheers!
gabby
12-01-2005, 05:49 PM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db?
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs
That is the prize of being Highly Productive people. You need to cope up otherwise you can’t get money.
ghostrider
12-01-2005, 06:19 PM
Yes,I am happy working in Japan. I am freelanced so that I can make my own time schedule. Even if I have lot of time,being single will make me bored some times. But I guess there are always something to do here:D
goldenStar
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db?
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs
i spend life here working and working. It is damn boring!But when i get to have a paid leave, i’d hibernate to some place else to help me get back to my senses. Anyway Waz, after all the hardwork, there will be always something good for you. for the meantime…be strong and stay happy!
abakitba
12-01-2005, 06:46 PM
“pinas pa rin” hmm… so what’s keeping you here…
if pinas pa rin… then go home and enjoy happiness.
We Vote with our feet, not our posts.
Mahal ko ang Pinas pero as a place to earn money and have a future, it’s scary to live there.
lilo
12-01-2005, 06:57 PM
sinabi mo pa WaZ! one week pa lang ako sa Japan uwing-uwi na ako! hirap ng walang makausap!
docomo
12-01-2005, 07:01 PM
That is the prize of being Highly Productive people. You need to cope up otherwise you can’t get money.
True… so true:)
rodem
12-01-2005, 07:53 PM
“pinas pa rin” hmm… so what’s keeping you here…
if pinas pa rin… then go home and enjoy happiness.
We Vote with our feet, not our posts.
Mahal ko ang Pinas pero as a place to earn money and have a future, it’s scary to live there.
Welcome to TF abakitba.
They are sharing their experiences here kaya please respect them…
abakitba
12-01-2005, 07:58 PM
Welcome to TF abakitba.
You are asking everyones opinion here kaya please respect them…
Salamat sa response mo.
I do respect other people’s opinion.
But sometimes it’s an obvious response…
parang… would you rather be rich and happy… or rich and poor…
would you rather be in the Pinas… or would you rather be in Japan?
Millions of people, one out of three at last poll… want to leave the Philippines to go somewhere else to work.
Hmm… we should ask them if they prefer the Philippines… or… I guess we did ask them already and they prefer to leave. Hmmm…
gabby
12-01-2005, 08:05 PM
Welcome to TF abakitba.
They are sharing their experiences here kaya please respect them…
LOL:D Aba! Tumutuka ka na ngayon! I wonder why? Kasi sempai ka na ano!
@ABAKITBA
Si Rodem ay nasa Japan iyan pero hayop ang takbo nang isip iyan, he is a very business minded person and has an eye for a good business deal to be done in the Philippines. Something that our dear Philippines need desperately. We need someone like him and he isn’t turning his back from the Philippines. Kaya please take it easy.
abakitba
12-01-2005, 08:21 PM
gabby… appreciate the guidance… salamat po’.
Philippines is a great place for a vacation.
Pathetic place to make a living though.
If it wasn’t, we’d all be there, enjoying everyone’s company.
I know I love visiting the Philippines… so much that I’m there every three to six months.
But I can only stay there so long, then I miss the orderliness and discipline of the places I work or do business in.
After World War 2, we were number one, mostly because everyone else was in ruins.
Now we may be at the bottom, if Cambodia or (whoever was in the bottom) hasn’t overtaken us yet. God bless the Philippines… it needs it.
Send more money to the Philippines too… your friends and family need it!
gabby
12-01-2005, 08:30 PM
gabby… appreciate the guidance… salamat po’.
Philippines is a great place for a vacation.
Pathetic place to make a living though.
If it wasn’t, we’d all be there, enjoying everyone’s company.
I know I love visiting the Philippines… so much that I’m there every three to six months.
But I can only stay there so long, then I miss the orderliness and discipline of the places I work or do business in.
After World War 2, we were number one, mostly because everyone else was in ruins.
Now we may be at the bottom, if Cambodia or (whoever was in the bottom) hasn’t overtaken us yet. God bless the Philippines… it needs it.
Send more money to the Philippines too… your friends and family need it!
Hello aba!
I know what you feel. I feel the same as well you know. Gusto ko mamatay na lahat nang tao sa Pinas eh Heh he he he . . . 
just a joke.
We’ll just wait till the political infrastructure in the RP gets better. For the mean time we must save money and when we come back we will be the new middle class in the RP and we should apply what we have learned here okay?
Cheers.
abakitba
12-01-2005, 08:49 PM
Thanks Gabby… but if you’re aiming sa middle class… you’re not aiming high enough.
Shouldn’t be hard to be middle class in the Philippines… unless of course you mean… new middle class because a middle class is currently nonexistent.
Which is not totally true… the middle class sa Pinas can be someone with a close relative sa abroad
What I’ve learned from living around the world…
is that the Philippines is not going to change in my lifetime.
Or most anyone’s lifetime that’s alive today.
Here’s hoping we can maintain and enjoy a reasonable lifestyle sa retirement years 
Salamat po’.
dcb0620
12-01-2005, 09:01 PM
hi waz im also here in osaka…nakakapa god nga talaga shigoto shigoto shigoto haayyyyyyyyyyy shindoi na…para bang panay trabaho lan dito compare sa pinas kahit may work or rather after ng work you have time for gimmik parang hindi ka pagod nakakamiss talaga but ang maganda lan dito sa pagstay natin dito sa nihon mahahawa tayo sa pagiging workaholic ng mga nihonjin elibs me sa mga hapon talagang on time in terms of work madalang k lan makakakita ng late comers miss ko na ang pinas mga kaibigan at kapamilya ko…may tanong ako wala bang EB ang mga tiga osaka yun lan po have A NICE DAYS! KIYOTSKITE NE:)
dcb0620
12-01-2005, 09:08 PM
[quote=thermometer]Hi Waz…yup thats true…boring nga dito sa japan not unless you have someone with you here… Nong wala pa ako GF dito I used to spend time on mountain climbing then hanap ng sports club mahirap naman din gumala kasi mahal dito sa japan…
but kung pipiliin ko is pinas or japan… pinas pa rin ako…mas andon po yong kasimplihan po ng buhay comapre here in japan…[/quote
hi thermometer ive read you spend time before sa mountain climbing may mountaineering club ba dito sa japan pwede magjoin mountaineer me kasi sa pinas especially nun college i miss to climb update me kaibigan kung may climb kayo sama me thanks kiyotskite ne
thermometer
12-01-2005, 09:36 PM
[quote=thermometer]Hi Waz…yup thats true…boring nga dito sa japan not unless you have someone with you here… Nong wala pa ako GF dito I used to spend time on mountain climbing then hanap ng sports club mahirap naman din gumala kasi mahal dito sa japan…
but kung pipiliin ko is pinas or japan… pinas pa rin ako…mas andon po yong kasimplihan po ng buhay comapre here in japan…[/quote
hi thermometer ive read you spend time before sa mountain climbing may mountaineering club ba dito sa japan pwede magjoin mountaineer me kasi sa pinas especially nun college i miss to climb update me kaibigan kung may climb kayo sama me thanks kiyotskite ne
actually bro…meron mga foriegn club sa mountainering… meron cla website puede ka mag member…minsan nag yaya sila …pero wala pa ako narinig na filipino mountaineering club sa japan…hope sana meron…PM nlng for the link sa site…
hmmm…why not kaya mag organize tayo,…
pip
12-01-2005, 09:45 PM
Hey pipol! READ THIS. this was written by a friend. I felt like sharing it kasi I thought it very appropriate to the discussion. just something to think about…
If I can just have my two cents’ worth, having a slightly different perspective to this story as I’ve been working in countries that have a lower human development index than our own. East Timor is a harsh, beautiful place that maybe is like a lover calling out to me as well, as I can’t begin to explain what ties bind me to that half-island that tested me in so many ways yet won my affection in the end. Kenya is a completely different story, as my sisses who have to endure my e-mail messages in frustration are bound to know, and it’s only lately that I have really learned to like my life over here. It was only after the first year when I started going to the field to see our projects and had the chance to hear some very disturbing stories from women and girls that I began to appreciate my time here, and strengthened my resolve to go on doing my little bit to help them.
Nobody has a right to question other people’s life choices – it’s much too difficult figuring out your own, that’s enough angst for me I find. But I would at least hope that none of us, in our quest for greener pastures, forget our Motherland, who reared us and schooled us into the young doctors that we are now. We were all educated at considerable public expense, and we do have an enormous debt of gratitude to the public health system back home. I am of the opinion that you can hate your government, but not your country. Those of you who have been to Thailand can sense that deep love and pride they have for their country and for their King. It seems you can’t get a bad word out of them about Thailand, at least not in my experience. Whereas we Filipinos, I’m sorry to say, we beat everyone else to the draw, always quick to criticize our own, always swift to castigate, always ready to point a finger at our country’s many faults. I don’t mind that people leave because everyone has the right to aspire for a better life and for higher things, and travel does open people’s minds. What infuriates me is how quickly some of us spit on the teat that we suckled on, and bite the hand that fed us. Nobody else will fix our country but ourselves. So leave the Philippines if you must, but love it until the end of your days.
People change over time, and while we may declare that we want to go back in the beginning, we may later find that option closed to us for one reason or the other. We don’t always have to go back, but give back we must, in our little way. A little respect is always in order, as we are de facto ambassadors for our country when we live overseas. There is enough talk about our shenanigans in the media, without any of us having to add personal accounts of how we hate our homeland and how we couldn’t wait to leave the first chance we had. I remember having dinner with a Kenyan colleague, well educated, articulate, and intelligent, who shocked me by telling me outright how she planned to `leave this God-forsaken country’. She didn’t even bother to mince her words in front of a foreigner like me. It made me sad hearing that, and sadder even knowing so many of my countrymen living in more industrialized nations are saying the same thing about the Philippines to their new neighbors, colleagues and friends. I love the Philippines, it will always be home. If some of us don’t feel that way, we should at least be kind enough not to proclaim the fact in public.
Home will always be Manila, and I can’t wait to inhale the smog on EDSA and endure the traffic in Sta. Mesa once more. So many Filipinos don’t have the luxury of choosing to leave like some of us do, and we owe it to the poorest of our brothers, being among the best and brightest young minds in our land, to help make the excruciating grind of daily life a bit easier for them. Maybe not right now, or maybe not from home, but I certainly think that with the privilege of our subsidized medical education comes the responsibility of helping alleviate other people’s poverty, those many millions less fortunate than we are who live on less than a dollar a day. Come to think of it, where we were born, like the faith that we grew up with, is merely an accident of geography. If only we were taught to love our country as staunchly as we were taught to declare how Catholic we are, then our Motherland wouldn’t have to suffer the indignity of so many children abandoning Her everyday. So many of us grow distant from the Church, attending Sunday mass as a matter of routine or completely staying away even, but we tolerate no insult to the Catholic religion and are always capable of showing solidarity with the Vatican position on birth control or lighting candles when the Pope is near death. Why don’t we have the same reflexive love for our country, why are we so quick to forget all that She has done for us and so eager to get away? Is it no wonder then that She is ailing, and getting sicker by the day?
The Philippines is a lovely country, with a highly literate population, where women are treated fairly well, where people can march to the streets and impeach a president, not once, but twice (or maybe even thrice). The East Timorese used to love it that I was also Asian and Catholic but could speak good English, and that I could hold my own against my male colleagues and the more irritating male characters of all shades who came to our Emergency Room. Domestic violence was endemic there, and I once had the dubious experience of hearing a soldier berate his barely conscious wife in the throes of ante-partum hemorrhage to stop bleeding as it was upsetting his mother'. (At least he tried to consider his mother's feelings on the matter.) Life expectancy stood at 50, give or take a few years, and the maternal mortality rate was estimated at 880. Most everyone was obsessed with the past, still bearing its scars, constantly referring to tortures during Indonesian times’ or how things were in Portuguese times' if they were older. In Kenya, the daily headlines can include anything from a nine-year old girl testing HIV-positive after chronic abuse at the hands of her stepfather, or a girl of six years being rescued from a husband aged seventy-two. Of the adult population, 6.7% is HIV-positive, or 1.5 million, with 200,000 in need of ARVs and roughly 500 new infections every day. A destitute middle-aged woman farmer in one of the areas worst affected by HIV/AIDS told me how she had buried her four children from AIDS, and when asked if she knew how one got the disease, said that AIDS is an accident that happens to you’. In 1989, secondary school boys swooped down on a girls’ dormitory one night, with at least 70 rapes carried out and something like 19 teenaged girls dying in the mayhem that ensued. The Headmaster later apologized for the incident, saying `The boys meant no harm, they only wanted to rape.’
For all our troubles back home, I would like to think that we are better than that, that our situation is a bit more hopeful, and that we should give the Philippines more credit. Leave if you must, but don’t be so cavalier about the lover you left behind. She cries for every insult that you hurl at her, and waits patiently for news of your love, if not your return.
gabby
12-01-2005, 11:20 PM
Hey pipol! READ THIS. this was written by a friend. I felt like sharing it kasi I thought it very appropriate to the discussion. just something to think about…
If I can just have my two cents’ worth, having a slightly different perspective to this story as I’ve been working in countries that have a lower human development index than our own. East Timor is a harsh, beautiful place that maybe is like a lover calling out to me as well, as I can’t begin to explain what ties bind me to that half-island that tested me in so many ways yet won my affection in the end. Kenya is a completely different story, as my sisses who have to endure my e-mail messages in frustration are bound to know, and it’s only lately that I have really learned to like my life over here. It was only after the first year when I started going to the field to see our projects and had the chance to hear some very disturbing stories from women and girls that I began to appreciate my time here, and strengthened my resolve to go on doing my little bit to help them.
Nobody has a right to question other people’s life choices – it’s much too difficult figuring out your own, that’s enough angst for me I find. But I would at least hope that none of us, in our quest for greener pastures, forget our Motherland, who reared us and schooled us into the young doctors that we are now. We were all educated at considerable public expense, and we do have an enormous debt of gratitude to the public health system back home. I am of the opinion that you can hate your government, but not your country. Those of you who have been to Thailand can sense that deep love and pride they have for their country and for their King. It seems you can’t get a bad word out of them about Thailand, at least not in my experience. Whereas we Filipinos, I’m sorry to say, we beat everyone else to the draw, always quick to criticize our own, always swift to castigate, always ready to point a finger at our country’s many faults. I don’t mind that people leave because everyone has the right to aspire for a better life and for higher things, and travel does open people’s minds. What infuriates me is how quickly some of us spit on the teat that we suckled on, and bite the hand that fed us. Nobody else will fix our country but ourselves. So leave the Philippines if you must, but love it until the end of your days.
People change over time, and while we may declare that we want to go back in the beginning, we may later find that option closed to us for one reason or the other. We don’t always have to go back, but give back we must, in our little way. A little respect is always in order, as we are de facto ambassadors for our country when we live overseas. There is enough talk about our shenanigans in the media, without any of us having to add personal accounts of how we hate our homeland and how we couldn’t wait to leave the first chance we had. I remember having dinner with a Kenyan colleague, well educated, articulate, and intelligent, who shocked me by telling me outright how she planned to `leave this God-forsaken country’. She didn’t even bother to mince her words in front of a foreigner like me. It made me sad hearing that, and sadder even knowing so many of my countrymen living in more industrialized nations are saying the same thing about the Philippines to their new neighbors, colleagues and friends. I love the Philippines, it will always be home. If some of us don’t feel that way, we should at least be kind enough not to proclaim the fact in public.
Home will always be Manila, and I can’t wait to inhale the smog on EDSA and endure the traffic in Sta. Mesa once more. So many Filipinos don’t have the luxury of choosing to leave like some of us do, and we owe it to the poorest of our brothers, being among the best and brightest young minds in our land, to help make the excruciating grind of daily life a bit easier for them. Maybe not right now, or maybe not from home, but I certainly think that with the privilege of our subsidized medical education comes the responsibility of helping alleviate other people’s poverty, those many millions less fortunate than we are who live on less than a dollar a day. Come to think of it, where we were born, like the faith that we grew up with, is merely an accident of geography. If only we were taught to love our country as staunchly as we were taught to declare how Catholic we are, then our Motherland wouldn’t have to suffer the indignity of so many children abandoning Her everyday. So many of us grow distant from the Church, attending Sunday mass as a matter of routine or completely staying away even, but we tolerate no insult to the Catholic religion and are always capable of showing solidarity with the Vatican position on birth control or lighting candles when the Pope is near death. Why don’t we have the same reflexive love for our country, why are we so quick to forget all that She has done for us and so eager to get away? Is it no wonder then that She is ailing, and getting sicker by the day?
The Philippines is a lovely country, with a highly literate population, where women are treated fairly well, where people can march to the streets and impeach a president, not once, but twice (or maybe even thrice). The East Timorese used to love it that I was also Asian and Catholic but could speak good English, and that I could hold my own against my male colleagues and the more irritating male characters of all shades who came to our Emergency Room. Domestic violence was endemic there, and I once had the dubious experience of hearing a soldier berate his barely conscious wife in the throes of ante-partum hemorrhage to stop bleeding as it was upsetting his mother'. (At least he tried to consider his mother's feelings on the matter.) Life expectancy stood at 50, give or take a few years, and the maternal mortality rate was estimated at 880. Most everyone was obsessed with the past, still bearing its scars, constantly referring to tortures during Indonesian times’ or how things were in Portuguese times' if they were older. In Kenya, the daily headlines can include anything from a nine-year old girl testing HIV-positive after chronic abuse at the hands of her stepfather, or a girl of six years being rescued from a husband aged seventy-two. Of the adult population, 6.7% is HIV-positive, or 1.5 million, with 200,000 in need of ARVs and roughly 500 new infections every day. A destitute middle-aged woman farmer in one of the areas worst affected by HIV/AIDS told me how she had buried her four children from AIDS, and when asked if she knew how one got the disease, said that AIDS is an accident that happens to you’. In 1989, secondary school boys swooped down on a girls’ dormitory one night, with at least 70 rapes carried out and something like 19 teenaged girls dying in the mayhem that ensued. The Headmaster later apologized for the incident, saying `The boys meant no harm, they only wanted to rape.’
For all our troubles back home, I would like to think that we are better than that, that our situation is a bit more hopeful, and that we should give the Philippines more credit. Leave if you must, but don’t be so cavalier about the lover you left behind. She cries for every insult that you hurl at her, and waits patiently for news of your love, if not your return.
This is a good one. Sharp and incisive. Well done Pip!!
taki
12-02-2005, 07:22 AM
Masiltov to the writer of this article! It has enlightened my mind and has made me realized that theres more suffering experienced by other countries than the one we had back home. Most if not some Filipinos kept on complaining about small issues and yet didnt do something to help alleviate these problems. I would like to quote on the paragraph below:
“Whereas we Filipinos, I’m sorry to say, we beat everyone else to the draw, always quick to criticize our own, always swift to castigate, always ready to point a finger at our country’s many faults. I don’t mind that people leave because everyone has the right to aspire for a better life and for higher things, and travel does open people’s minds. What infuriates me is how quickly some of us spit on the teat that we suckled on, and bite the hand that fed us. Nobody else will fix our country but ourselves. So leave the Philippines if you must, but love it until the end of your days.”
True indeed, I can see some people in this community (Timog Forum) who are fault finders. They tend to make an image that they are good citizens living in a foreign country but is just actually a facade. People here ask for an opinion on certain issues and what they do, they criticize and would say "you dont have a place here." And start generalizing the fault of one to us Filipinos. Why cant we bring in the values that we have learned from our family back in the Philippines? Why can`t we just help each other instead of rejecting fellow Filipinos because he or she has contributed a bad reputation in this country?
lilo
12-02-2005, 11:23 AM
gabby… appreciate the guidance… salamat po’.
Philippines is a great place for a vacation.
Pathetic place to make a living though.
If it wasn’t, we’d all be there, enjoying everyone’s company.
I know I love visiting the Philippines… so much that I’m there every three to six months.
But I can only stay there so long, then I miss the orderliness and discipline of the places I work or do business in.
After World War 2, we were number one, mostly because everyone else was in ruins.
Now we may be at the bottom, if Cambodia or (whoever was in the bottom) hasn’t overtaken us yet. God bless the Philippines… it needs it.
Send more money to the Philippines too… your friends and family need it!
uh, i dunno. i like working here in pinas. used to dream of working abroad to earn big bucks pero pagkatapos kong magtravel sa ibang bansa, i realized that i like working in pinas. pay is not good as what you guys receive pero i get by. i don’t spend as much as you do (at sobrang expensive naman kasi lahat sa japan)…and the savings may not be as high pero i’m happy with the way things are.
hey, don’t despair. habang may buhay may pag-asa. the future in pinas may be bleak, pero maniwala ka sa himala.
mz.anna
12-02-2005, 12:13 PM
sorry gabby ha sa susunod small letter na po
WaZ
12-02-2005, 04:43 PM
hello!
grabe gulat ako 3 pages agad yung thread hehe, sorry for late rep wala po kasi akong net sa house eh sa office lang ako net hehe,
first of all thanks for your inputs hehe
DJ chot,
diba wala pong overtime overtime sa japanese? i mean you dont get overtime pay here diba? they pay you fixed salary db?
thermometer
parang feeling ko kasi iba yung air dito eh , parang bagal ng oras or parang ang haba ng araw hehe
ummm so sir dapat po ba may gf para masok buhay dito sa japan? hehe
Golden star
thanks for the advice, i hope this leads to something better hehe
Lilo
hehe ganun rin po yung nafeel kon nung first month ko dito,1 month palang pero feeling ko 6 months na hehe
abakitba
hi sir actually ask ko lang po yung opinions niyo, im just thinking na sayang rin po yung oppurtunity dito kaya cguro nandito pa ako , you can go back to philippines anyday but going back here is the other way around diba?
dcb0620
hello sir nice, osaka rin po pala kayo hehe baka baka magkalapit lang po tayo , maybe we could hang out together hehe (please pm me nalang thanks ) , parang dito priority yung work kasya sa life hehe, opinion ko lang po ah hehe
honestly feeling ko kahit mga hapon hindi rin happy sa work nila (hindi lahat ah), icip ko lang po a,meron na po ba dito na naask yung office mate nila ?
icip ko rin na this is the place where you realize that money is not everything hehe
thanks for the inputs
abakitba
12-02-2005, 06:26 PM
When there is no more Illegal Pinoys (bilog or TNT),
then I will know that the glorious country of the Philippines
has made political and economic progress.
In the meantime, I’m not going to hold my breath.
Oh… isa pang criteria pala…
when wala nang mga foreigner visiting the Philippines to enjoy the company of our ladyfolk… then talagang umasenso na tayo.
Not as poetic as most of the posts here, but realistic criteria…
What’s your opinion on going home or leaving Pilipinas kong mahal?
manilagirl
12-09-2005, 05:48 PM
Masiltov to the writer of this article! It has enlightened my mind and has made me realized that theres more suffering experienced by other countries than the one we had back home. Most if not some Filipinos kept on complaining about small issues and yet didnt do something to help alleviate these problems. I would like to quote on the paragraph below:
“Whereas we Filipinos, I’m sorry to say, we beat everyone else to the draw, always quick to criticize our own, always swift to castigate, always ready to point a finger at our country’s many faults. I don’t mind that people leave because everyone has the right to aspire for a better life and for higher things, and travel does open people’s minds. What infuriates me is how quickly some of us spit on the teat that we suckled on, and bite the hand that fed us. Nobody else will fix our country but ourselves. So leave the Philippines if you must, but love it until the end of your days.”
True indeed, I can see some people in this community (Timog Forum) who are fault finders. They tend to make an image that they are good citizens living in a foreign country but is just actually a facade. People here ask for an opinion on certain issues and what they do, they criticize and would say "you dont have a place here." And start generalizing the fault of one to us Filipinos. Why cant we bring in the values that we have learned from our family back in the Philippines? Why can`t we just help each other instead of rejecting fellow Filipinos because he or she has contributed a bad reputation in this country?
Philippines is hell if we compare it with progressive countries like US, Britan, Japan, etc but if we take a look at the situations of people in Africa & North Korea then perhaps we would start to appreciate what we have.
abakitba
12-09-2005, 06:00 PM
Philippines is hell if we compare it with progressive countries like US, Britan, Japan, etc but if we take a look at the situations of people in Africa & North Korea then perhaps we would start to appreciate what we have.
Interesting reply but I think it’s dangerous.
Kailangan gawin natin ang best para our country can come out of it’s misery.
Seems like the typical Pinoy ethic… “Pwede na yan.”
Instead of saying, “let’s do the best we can, better than anyone else.”
We used to be the number one country after World War 2.
Now we’re at the bottom.
What do you think we should do?
tfcfan
12-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Interesting reply but I think it’s dangerous.
Kailangan gawin natin ang best para our country can come out of it’s misery.
Seems like the typical Pinoy ethic… “Pwede na yan.”
Instead of saying, “let’s do the best we can, better than anyone else.”
We used to be the number one country after World War 2.
Now we’re at the bottom.
What do you think we should do?
Umpisahan mo kaya sa sarili mo! Yang mga ganyang attitude kase ang nakakadagdag problema sa ating bansa!Matanong lang kita member ka ba ng mga grupong aktibista?
manilagirl
12-09-2005, 06:39 PM
Interesting reply but I think it’s dangerous.
Kailangan gawin natin ang best para our country can come out of it’s misery.
Seems like the typical Pinoy ethic… “Pwede na yan.”
Instead of saying, “let’s do the best we can, better than anyone else.”
We used to be the number one country after World War 2.
Now we’re at the bottom.
What do you think we should do?
Isa lang masasabi ko, I want the best for country! In my own little way like paying proper tax I think kahit pano nakakatulong na rin ako.
abakitba
12-10-2005, 12:43 PM
Isa lang masasabi ko, I want the best for country! In my own little way like paying proper tax I think kahit pano nakakatulong na rin ako.
Unfortunately, paying taxes just makes more money available for Pinoy leaders (politicians) to steal.
Most of your taxes are going to the politician’s savings account.
Let me know if I’m wrong on this and I will show you the properties of these low-lifes compared to the average citizen.
Taxes also inhibit foreign investment. Taxes, too big an issue to tackle on this post.
Currently Pinas exports labor, and has been exporting labor (nurses, docs, teachers, entertainers, etc) for a long time.
Sad but the best way to help the Philippines is for Pinoys to leave and work in another nation.
Always found it remarkable na ang Pinoy ay appreciated, even compensated well sa ibang nations, but ang na i-wan ay nagiging more and more pathetic.
Pinoys do well improving their economic situation in other nations, but it’s really difficult to do that in the Philippines.
If it wasn’t, I’d be back there now. And probably so would you.
Salamat sa post mo.
abakitba
12-10-2005, 06:38 PM
Umpisahan mo kaya sa sarili mo! Yang mga ganyang attitude kase ang nakakadagdag problema sa ating bansa!Matanong lang kita member ka ba ng mga grupong aktibista?
Ganyang attitude? why… how would you describe my attitude?
Hope I haven’t misunderstood your post.
I was replying to manilagirl’s post…
“Philippines is hell if we compare it with progressive countries like US, Britan, Japan, etc but if we take a look at the situations of people in Africa & North Korea then perhaps we would start to appreciate what we have.”
I say that quote is a dangerous line of thinking.
To be better than Africa and North Korea is not an acceptable situation.
We Pinoys are much, much, more talented than that.
We should strive to be in the league of ‘First world countries’… not just better than countries ruled by despots.
Grupong aktibista? Sorry I don’t belong to any so-called activist groups (who have their own agenda by the way).
One of my heroes is Bill Gates, one who has brought the world into the Information Age.
He’s my kind of activist.
The best kind of activism is individual activism, not group think.
Perhaps someday we will get to know each other and you will have more information on how “inumpisahan ko sa sarili ko.”
I wish you success in all your endeavors.
tfcfan
12-10-2005, 09:13 PM
@abakitba
alam mo sa sarili mo kung ano ka.namis understood mo nga ako .
di mo ba nakita icon sa dulo ng message ? confuse I am!
hope to meet you too!
peace!
tower23ph
12-10-2005, 09:42 PM
masarap magtrabaho dito sa japan kahit paminsan minsan boring pero dito, you got what you work for… masarap sa pinas kasi nandon ang kakulangan ng kaligayahang wala dito sa japan. Pero ako, sa pinas pa rin…dun japan. Pero ako, sa pinas pa rin…dun ako masaya e.
manilagirl
12-10-2005, 11:15 PM
****abakitba
Just to clarify, I use the word appreciate not the word accept nor be contented with the standing of our country compare with the progressive others.
abakitba
12-11-2005, 08:07 AM
****abakitba
Just to clarify, I use the word appreciate not the word accept nor be contented with the standing of our country compare with the progressive others.
OK. I understand.
Also saying we can and should do better.
What do you think?
I think that by leaving the country, most are already doing better for themselves,
and because they are doing better for themselves,
they are doing good for the country also.
Salamat sa sagot mo po’.
Summer!
12-11-2005, 11:40 AM
Naaliw naman ako sa thread na ito…nagulat din ako kay tfcfan na madalas nag-o-opo sa mga posts, hehe, hindi nakatiis, nairita na kay abakitba. Abakitngaba?
@Pip, ang ganda ng article, sino ang writer? impressive. Punto por punto ang tirada kaya ang hirap hindi makumbinsi. Pero ako di kailangang kumbinsihin kasi labs ko Pinas despite all the hardships na dinadanas nito. At alam kong doon ko gusto mabuhay hindi lang for retirement kundi habang bata pa ako, nandito lang din ako para makaipon at makapag-invest sa atin ng magandang negosyo. Pati nga asawa kong Hapon gusto Pinas basta lang may pagkakakitaan din.
YAN
01-02-2007, 04:07 PM
Ako,in terms of work mas ok ako dito,i mean well compensated kasi,natural lng na mahirap ang trabaho,kahit saan naman ganon,eh sa pinas kasi naubusan ka na ng lakas di ka pa rin makaahon or makaipon dahil sa baba ng sweldo.Pero living a life? parang mas ok sa tin,mahirap dito nagiisa ka,nakakalungkot,iba ng iba ang culture.Masaya sa philippines pero medyo malabo ang future.(correct me if im wrong)
guy26
01-02-2007, 09:22 PM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db?
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs
pag practical ka… tago mo na lang emotion mo dito kana lang kasi mas malaki sahod dito,
pero kung tatanungin ako kung happy ako, geez I’m NOT! bagay sakin na song yung blue jeans! haha
sharpener
01-03-2007, 08:45 AM
kung emotional ka at happiness ang hanap mo, sa Pinas ka nga nararapat
pero kung ikaw ay fighter, hardworker, at handang magtiis, dito ka sa Japan
kaya mabuti pa…work ka ng 10 months dito sa Japan, vacation ka ng 2 months sa Pinas
wow! ang saya-saya:D
mamimo
01-03-2007, 10:11 AM
kung emotional ka at happiness ang hanap mo, sa Pinas ka nga nararapat
pero kung ikaw ay fighter, hardworker, at handang magtiis, dito ka sa Japan
kaya mabuti pa…work ka ng 10 months dito sa Japan, vacation ka ng 2 months sa Pinas
wow! ang saya-saya:D
hi sis,
di kaya mawili ang bakasyunista sa 2buwan na bakasyon, pagbalik sa work malaki na tiyan at mabagal pa kumilos:D
sharpener
01-03-2007, 12:38 PM
hi sis,
di kaya mawili ang bakasyunista sa 2buwan na bakasyon, pagbalik sa work malaki na tiyan at mabagal pa kumilos:D
hehehe, ang inaalala ko pa nga, bka pag balik ng japan e “kubi” na
kase naman bat pa tinatanong kung happy sa work:cry:…sa japan pa:cry:
di ba when you say work…pagod, hirap, pagtitiis at pagsisikap yan, plus nasa ibang bansa ka pa
ano naman happy ang maisasagot ko, e hindi naman pleasure trip ito:banghead:
carla
01-03-2007, 01:46 PM
happy sana ako, kaya lang wala ako trabaho. san kaya ako pwede, help naman pang hiruma mga ka tf. salamat
Chibi
01-03-2007, 03:08 PM
hello, Waz!!happy na rin kase kasundo ko naman co-worker ko,kaya lang nakakainis marami rin palang madadaya dito,kahit di naman kailangang mag overtime at yung iba talagang wala namang ginagawa, andun pa rin sa opis:eek: …unfair!
chepot
01-03-2007, 05:02 PM
sa case ko naman, balance lang cguro kc, doubled ang stress ko rito kc im working with the family and alam naman natin ang culture rito “chonan no yome” malaking responsiblity ang at stake pro, ganun pa man im finding ways to enjoy things na kung ordinary office worker ako, di ko rin magagawa ang mga iyon…kaya lang nga kapag talagang busy season work 2 death din kahit alang extra pay. no choice coz kasama yun sa pinirmahan ko sa contrata sa kasal…“for better or for worse,”…ika nga… and im glad i found TF kasi feel ko na hindi ako nagiisa d2 sa mundo…
mrs-mymelo
01-06-2007, 10:31 PM
hisashibori…
first post po…since vacation…lahat,genk i?
Talking about work…of course I’m happy.I’m thankful to God
for the chance,that I’m here to earn and to meet a lot of
different people.There are stressful things,but I don’t mind
as long as I’m just working for a living.
When I’m lonely,I call some friends or pasilip-silip minsan dito
sa TF…but I find it merrier to log-in than just silip.
Di ba?
docomo
01-08-2007, 10:58 PM
I love my job too much. I look forward to going to work and enjoy all the challenges my day brings. Yes sometimes (well almost every day) its stressful, but lots of days I just go home and think, wow I got paid for that.
infinite_trial
01-09-2007, 11:58 AM
before i wasn’t cuz i just sit and wait for e-mail requests to come before i could do mah work. i was bored.
now mah superiors are givin me a lot of tasks, which i really like cuz it means they have seen mah potential or they trust me nuff to give me a bunch of work hehe.
even though i feel i’ve done a lot of work in a day, hearin em say i did an excellent job for a small thing means everythin to me. now i can go home without thinkin of work. unlike wit mah prev job, i get a lot of stress from whinin customers and a whinin boss hehe!!!
roi5f
01-09-2007, 12:12 PM
I love my job too much. I look forward to going to work and enjoy all the challenges my day brings. Yes sometimes (well almost every day) its stressful, but lots of days I just go home and think, wow I got paid for that.
puede po bang malaman ang job ninyo (kahit PM po). Baka puede ako sa kumpanya ninyo.
iseijin
01-15-2007, 04:16 AM
yes, i am very happy with my current job kasi not so stressful yung trabaho ko:D yun nga lng, nakaka miss yung mag lakwatsa at gimik paminsan minsan…
RODSKI
01-15-2007, 07:44 AM
hello guys , are you happy working here in japan, :eek:
this is for the people who are single and working here in japan:)
how do you spend life here, kasi parati nalng overtime dito parang free time lang talga is sunday…
iba kasi yung feeling ng may family dito at magisa lang po dito db?
kung makakapili kayo san niyo po gusto mag work here or phil parin?
thanks for the inputs . . . . . . Syempre iba pa din kung nasa Philippines ka, kase nandun lahat ng tropa mo, pamilya, lahat mga tsismoso, tsismosa, iba eh, kaya masarap magtrabaho,alam nyo naman ang trabaho sa Philippines, napakalaki ng diperensya kumpara dito, satin kase mas marami ‘Pahinga’ eh,dito naman sa Japan, makukuba ka katatrabaho:p . . Pero, yun eh kung ang kikitain ko or natin sa Philippines eh, kapareho ng kinikita natin dito or higit pa, at kung hindi well, syempre dito ako.
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