jramar
12-01-2005, 11:05 PM
(intel pentium4 1.7GHz) or (intel celeron 2.8GHz) na procesor sa dalawa. kasi implanning to trade my celeron HP notebook to my friends pentium4 DELL notebook.
ning2
12-01-2005, 11:40 PM
(intel pentium4 1.7GHz) or (intel celeron 2.8GHz) na procesor sa dalawa. kasi implanning to trade my celeron HP notebook to my friends pentium4 DELL notebook.
para sa akin intel pentium4. mayroon akong intel celeron na laptop ang bagal ng response unlike intel pentium4:) hintay pa tayo ng ibang response:)
thermometer
12-02-2005, 07:41 AM
(intel pentium4 1.7GHz) or (intel celeron 2.8GHz) na procesor sa dalawa. kasi implanning to trade my celeron HP notebook to my friends pentium4 DELL notebook.
of course naman sa pentium 4 po ako
c2ny2
12-02-2005, 07:59 AM
(intel pentium4 1.7GHz) or (intel celeron 2.8GHz) na procesor sa dalawa. kasi implanning to trade my celeron HP notebook to my friends pentium4 DELL notebook.
Kung wala ng ibang pang specifics na pag uusapan pa kung hindi itong speed lang ng processor ng laptop mo as in halos parehong may DVD combo drive, CDRW ect. eh di mas mabilis yung celleron. Yung P4 1.7GHZ compara sa Celleron 2.8 GHZ. Saka considered mo na rin yung saan ginawa. Yung Dell kadalasan from Taiwan. Para sa akin …I’ll keep my unit.:type:
jbzealot
12-02-2005, 08:34 AM
Kung wala ng ibang pang specifics na pag uusapan pa kung hindi itong speed lang ng processor ng laptop mo as in halos parehong may DVD combo drive, CDRW ect. eh di mas mabilis yung celleron. Yung P4 1.7GHZ compara sa Celleron 2.8 GHZ. Saka considered mo na rin yung saan ginawa. Yung Dell kadalasan from Taiwan. Para sa akin …I’ll keep my unit.:type:
tama si c2ny2, I prefer on the speed, liban na lang kung mas mataas ang random memory at graphics capability ng Dell P4.17Ghz.
Paul
12-02-2005, 12:06 PM
Saan mo ba gagamitin ang laptop mo?
black_is_beauty
12-02-2005, 06:28 PM
mas mabilis ang processing syempre nang pentium even na 1.7 pa sya
kumpara sa 2.8 na celeron. Kung centrino yan e talo talo yan. swap ka na sa
Pentium… hehe…
Stacie Fil
12-02-2005, 09:43 PM
(intel pentium4 1.7GHz) or (intel celeron 2.8GHz) na procesor sa dalawa. kasi implanning to trade my celeron HP notebook to my friends pentium4 DELL notebook.
I could be wrong, but I think I heard once that Pent IV for laptop tends to overheat. The advice I think is to avoid laptop w/ pent IV if you entend to get one…
c2ny2
12-02-2005, 10:01 PM
I could be wrong, but I think I heard once that Pent IV for laptop tends to overheat. The advice I think is to avoid laptop w/ pent IV if you entend to get one…
I’ved heared this one also. Hindi nga raw maganda ang Pentium 4 sa Laptop. Madalas daw…daw? siyang tumirik. Is it true mga kasambahay?
jramar
12-02-2005, 10:51 PM
gusto ko lang i-try kung ano ang performance ng pent4 na laptop saka pang personal ko kasi ung desktop sa bahay e maraming gumagamit sa amin sa laptop ako nageedit at burn ng dvd-video kaya try ko kung maganda un P4 baka hindi sya naghahang sa laptop.
jbzealot
12-03-2005, 12:53 PM
gusto ko lang i-try kung ano ang performance ng pent4 na laptop saka pang personal ko kasi ung desktop sa bahay e maraming gumagamit sa amin sa laptop ako nageedit at burn ng dvd-video kaya try ko kung maganda un P4 baka hindi sya naghahang sa laptop.
so burning dvd-video pala ang main purpose… burning DVD’s take a lot of time, base lang po ito sa experience. I ussually use dell laptops (P4, Pm centrino) in my site work overseas and also do some burnings and dell tends to heat up very easily and hangs-up. Pero common po (tama ang narinig nila Stacie Fil at c2ny2) na madaling mag-init ang mga P4 laptops, ito’y base rin sa mga pc mag’s bench marking. (siguro tama ang pansin ko na ang casing usually ng P4 laptops, maraming heat exhaust)
Tama lang po na do some burnings with your friend and check.
To Black is Beauty: i-correct lang po sana ninyo kung ako’y mali…ang isang main purpose ng “Centrino” e ang pahabain lang ang battery life ng laptop kung ito’y naka-mobile o hindi nakasaksak ang power cable. kaya kung i-check nyo ang usual feature ng kahit anong model ng centrino ay sinasabing angkop-na-angkop para sa mga on-the-move people o byahero na laang kaya. (kaya po ito mahal kung bilhin). isa pa ho, ala pa akong nakikitang centrino na 2.+Ghz ang speed.
Pasensya na po, napahaba eh.
asyong21
12-05-2005, 01:35 PM
I could be wrong, but I think I heard once that Pent IV for laptop tends to overheat. The advice I think is to avoid laptop w/ pent IV if you entend to get one…
On Overheating issues, it depends on which Pentium 4 CPU
was used on a notebook. AFAIK there are three Pentium 4 CPUs
used on most notebook by some makers including, Toshiba, IBM,
Dell, HP, Sony, etc… And these are Pentium 4, Mobile Pentium 4, and
Mobile Pentium 4-M.
Notes on 3-P4 used on most mobile PCs:
-
Pentium 4 - Ordinary Dekstop CPU, which emits a lot of heat , because of lack
of advance power management compared to the other two P4s. ( usual
speeds released on most notebooks in the market - 2.8-3.xGHz) -
Mobile Pentium 4-M - The real mobile version of Pentium 4, better
power management( speedstep, etc. ) compared to the ordinary
P4(desktop CPU) and Mobile P4. ( usual speeds on most notebooks released-
1.4GHz-2.4GHz) -
Mobile Pentium 4 - The modified version of the Dekstop P4,
better power management than its desktop equivalent, but Mobile
Pentium 4-M is still way better than this CPU in terms of power
management.( speed : almost same as the Desktop P4)
On the palmrest , you can check which CPU is installed on your notebook
by checking the “Intel Inside Pentium 4” mark. The Mobile Pentium 4-M comes
with the “M” on the lower portion of the P4 mark, but be aware that Mobile
Pentium 4 and a Dekstop Pentium have the same mark(sticker on the palmrest).
or
By Windows System Properties
(Right Click MyComputer->Properties)
In the case of the poster, he said the speed of the P4 of his friend is at 1.7GHz.
There is a possibility that the CPU on that notebook is a Mobile Pentium 4-M at
1.7GHz. In that case, I’ll go for the Dell one. IMHO, performance wise and power management, Mobile Pentium 4-M 1.7GHz is way better than a 2.8GHz Celeron(may it either Mobile Celeron or Celeron-Desktop CPU, and not
Celeron-M).
asyong21
12-05-2005, 01:58 PM
so burning dvd-video pala ang main purpose… burning DVD’s take a lot of time, base lang po ito sa experience. I ussually use dell laptops (P4, Pm centrino) in my site work overseas and also do some burnings and dell tends to heat up very easily and hangs-up. Pero common po (tama ang narinig nila Stacie Fil at c2ny2) na madaling mag-init ang mga P4 laptops, ito’y base rin sa mga pc mag’s bench marking. (siguro tama ang pansin ko na ang casing usually ng P4 laptops, maraming heat exhaust)
Tama lang po na do some burnings with your friend and check.
To Black is Beauty: i-correct lang po sana ninyo kung ako’y mali…ang isang main purpose ng “Centrino” e ang pahabain lang ang battery life ng laptop kung ito’y naka-mobile o hindi nakasaksak ang power cable. kaya kung i-check nyo ang usual feature ng kahit anong model ng centrino ay sinasabing angkop-na-angkop para sa mga on-the-move people o byahero na laang kaya. (kaya po ito mahal kung bilhin). isa pa ho, ala pa akong nakikitang centrino na 2.+Ghz ang speed.
Pasensya na po, napahaba eh.
Pwede ko bang sagutin ang tanong mo… 
Tama at mali ka 
Tama ka sa longer battery life and the reason bakit angkop ang Centrino sa
mga taong palaging mobile ay dahil sa wireless capabilities bukod
pa sa battery life. Kapag sinabing Centrino, ito ay mobile hardware platform
na binubuo ng 3 modules - CPU(Pentium-M not Pentium4-M), Chipset( Intel
855GM/GME/915) at Wireless Connectivity(IPW2100 ,2200 at yung isa nakalimutan ko na 
).
Minsan may makikita kayong notebook, hindi centrino ang nakalagay na sticker
instead “INtel Pentium M”, malaki ang possibility na either hindi Intel Wireless ang gamit nito or wala syang Wireless LAN card, since sa mga Pentium-M
ang gamit ay Intel Chipset.
Tama ka rin na walang umabot na 2.XGHz na Pentium M, yan eh noong
panahon ng Pentium M Banias Core, hanggang 1.7 or 1.8 GHz(not sure)
lang yata… Since last year pa, meron nang 2.0GHz na Pentium M,
yung Pentium M Dothan Core(max at 2.oGHz with 2MB cache).
About sa problem sa overheat during burning, wala pa naman akong
na-experience na hangup at overheat sa Dell notebook. Minsan sa isang
session nagbuburn ako ng mga 6-10 DVDs and yet hindi ko pa nakitang
nag-overheat ang notebook at naghang…
Ang naexperience ko lang, kapag matagal nang nagagamit ang notebook,
let say mga 8-10 hours na nakaplug, umiinit na ang left side ng palmrest,
yun ay dahil nandun ang HDD…
Sa CPU overheat, so far hindi pa nag-ooverheat ang Pentium M.
asyong21
12-05-2005, 02:27 PM
Kung wala ng ibang pang specifics na pag uusapan pa kung hindi itong speed lang ng processor ng laptop mo as in halos parehong may DVD combo drive, CDRW ect. eh di mas mabilis yung celleron. Yung P4 1.7GHZ compara sa Celleron 2.8 GHZ. Saka considered mo na rin yung saan ginawa. Yung Dell kadalasan from Taiwan. Para sa akin …I’ll keep my unit.:type:
I still prefer the 1.7GHz Pentium 4 notebook( if its a Mobile Pentium 4-M)
from the 2.8GHz Celeron.
And IMHO, Dell is still way better than HP-Compaq
asyong21
12-05-2005, 02:53 PM
tama si c2ny2, I prefer on the speed, liban na lang kung mas mataas ang random memory at graphics capability ng Dell P4.17Ghz.
Agree on you’re opinion that aside from the other hardware differences
on which one to choose between the two, and that I also prefer speed.
In the CPU world, its not the the clock speed that really counts a lot, but
its the number of instructions being excuted per secs/msecs/usecs,
and in addition to that the CPU’s internal cache memory size too.
In this case, a Pentium 4 clocked at 1.7GHz is still better than a
Celeron clocked at 2.8GHz because there are certain number
of CPU instructions that a Pentium 4 possesses but a Celeron CPU lacks.
Some of these instructions requires a Celeron CPU to do certain number of CPU
instructions just to do one of these instructions.
In this case I still prefer the Pentium 4(if its a mobile Pentium 4-M :D) notebook.
But ( this is just a but :D), if the Celeron notebook have a much higher RAM ,
bigger HDD capacity, better Video graphic adapter, optical drive writing
capabilities, ports, etc. then in that case, I’ll go for the Celeron notebook
asyong21
12-05-2005, 03:02 PM
mas mabilis ang processing syempre nang pentium even na 1.7 pa sya
kumpara sa 2.8 na celeron. Kung centrino yan e talo talo yan. swap ka na sa
Pentium… hehe…
This is maybe a bit off topic.
Agree on you black_is_beauty.
A Pentium M clocked at 1.5GHz can outperform a Mobile Pentium 4-M
clocked at 2.4GHz and almost perform like a Mobile Pentium 4-M at 2.8Ghz.
Plus the much advance power management on a Pentium-M CPU…
infinite_trial
12-09-2005, 11:35 PM
the reason why it overheats because the processor they use are meant for desktops. that is why they have mobile processors which are specifically made for laptops. if you are goin for speed and wanna be able to use programs that requires a higher processor, then go for pentium 4. but then…i dont trust DELL :grinny:
Paul
12-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Or if you really want a better machine…get a Mac.
asyong21
12-21-2005, 02:41 PM
Or if you really want a better machine…get a Mac.
Apple computers run OSX and it’s more of a BSD system.
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