oren
11-08-2004, 09:53 PM
hello sa lahat at matagal akong nawala. by the way, any suggestions for a beginner learning nihongo? mostly grammar. tips din sa pag-aaral ng japanese kung meron kayo. gusto kong mag-enroll sa isang japanese language school pero mahal kaya self-study na lang in the meantime.
regards,
oren
andres
11-09-2004, 02:58 PM
Welcome back, Oren. Mare-recommend ko ang “Japanese For Busy People” para sa basic language at grammar at “Kodansha Kanji Learner’s Dictionary” para sa kanji.
jing
11-10-2004, 04:33 PM
hi oren. ako naman mare-recommend ko ang “Minna no Nihongo” (comes in two volumes) for language and grammar (although separate book pa yung English translation), at “250 Essential Kanji for Everyday Use” (volumes I and II, so 500 kanjis). ganbatte kudasai!
jing
reon
11-11-2004, 09:20 PM
hello oren,
wala akong ibang binasa nang husto na grammar books bukod sa textbooks na ginamit namin sa school. pero meron akong nakitang libro sa pilipinas na palagay ko maganda. ang title yata ay “Japanese for Today”. maliit lang ito na libro at yellow ang kulay na makikita sa mga branches ng national book store. mayroong “Japanese for Today” sa amazon pero walang image kaya hindi ko alam kung pareho ito.
kung kanji naman, okay ang suggestion ni andres, ang “Kodansha’s Kanji Learner’s Dictionary (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/4770028555/ref=sib_rdr_dp/104-4138263-4497556)”, na simplified version ng “New Japanse-English Character Dictionary” ng kenkyusha (parehong author). meron ako pareho nito at although mas exhaustive ang version ng kenkyusha, mas madaling gamitin ang version ng kodansha. mukhang okay rin ang “250 essential kanjis” kung magsisimula ka sa zero.
kung gusto mo namang magbasa tungkol sa japanese, maire-recommend ko ang “Japanese in Action: An Unorthodox Approach to the Spoken Language and the People Who Speak It (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0834800330/qid=1100174534/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-4138263-4497556?v=glance&s=books).” okay ito, merong interesting anecdotes tungkol sa nihongo at mga hapon.
oren
11-12-2004, 08:03 PM
thank you sa lahat ng replies, andres, jing at reon. ang totoo ay nagsa-start pa lang akong mag-aral ng japanese (marunong na ako ng kaunting conversation). sa ngayon self-study lang muna at baka kumuha ako ng japanese test (yung lowest level), pero gusto ko sanang pumasok sa isang language school in the future. alam ba ninyo ang requirements? basta high school graduate kaya puwede na?
oren
Dax
02-04-2005, 01:43 PM
ok ang mga recommended books nila sa baba.
i would just like to add some tips in learning nihongo more efficiently and effectively:
- use a dictionary written in japanese, not in romaji
- use an old-fashioned “book” dictionary, not an electronic dictionary
- watch a lot of tv (especially anime and drama) during your free time
- place your wa-ei dictionary AND your kanji dictionary close to the tv
- try to make as many japanese friends as possible and practice newly learned phrases with them. ask them to correct you if you made a mistake (some tend not to)
Dax
02-04-2005, 01:53 PM
oh by the way, i think the most important thing of all in learning nihongo is to:
6. learn nihongo in nihongo, not in english! (or any other language)
once you’ve perfected the kanas, use 1. below and throw/give away your romaji wa-ei dictionaries! when learning nihongo, discard your english language “common sense”. do not try to construct nihongo sentences in the same fashion. remember, “common sense” in the philippines may not always be “common” in japan, and vice versa. the same thing goes for the language.
some filipinos (non-japanese english-speaking people in particular) become frustrated in learning nihongo because they tend to use this “common sense” that they know in english, when learning nihongo…
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