andres
02-22-2005, 02:49 PM
WHEN Japan implements its new immigration rules in March, 90 percent of the Filipino entertainers there will no longer be qualified to work in that country again. Given the US$351 million that these “japayukis” have been sending home yearly, the government’s instinct was to ask Japan to postpone the implementation of the new rules.
Read more > (http://partners.inq7.net/newsbreak/istories/index.php?story_id=27389)
Nais ko lang sanag malaman ang opinyon nyo tungkol dito, lalo na dun sa mga matagal nang nakatira sa Japan. TY!
reon
02-23-2005, 08:30 PM
andres, gusto ko sanang sumagot, pero wala yata akong strong opinions tungkol sa isyu na ito. ano ba specifically ang gusto mong malaman?
andres
02-23-2005, 08:53 PM
hindi ko rin masyadong alam,
pero libo-libong mga kababayan natin ang maapektuhan nito, at malaki rin ang epekto sa philippine economy.
pero wala akong kakilalang japayuki, at nagtataka ako kung yung ibang TF members may kakilala o kung gusto nilang mag-share ng opinions. malaking bagay ito, diba?
at baka nagkakamali ako, pero para sa maraming mga japanese, pag iniisip nila “filipino”, iniisip din nila “japayuki”.
pointblank
02-23-2005, 09:56 PM
Halos 3 weeks na namin pinag-discuss ang issue na ito sa isang e-group na kasali ako, kaya medyo burned-out na ako sa pagod at frustration. Pero anyway, a short comment:
Totoong maraming mawawalan ng trabaho (80,000 “entertainers” ang pumunta sa Japan in 2004), at malaki ang mawawala sa remittances ng pinapadala nila. Ngunit hindi lang pera ang issue dito kundi ang moralidad at reputasyon ng bansa na rin natin.
Dahil sa hirap ng buhay sa Pinas ay kailangan umalis ang mga “young, able and willing” natin para magtrabaho sa ibang bayan. While this is not an ideal situation dahil mas maganda sana kung sa Pilipinas sila magkaroon ng job opportunities, okay na rin ito dahil kahit na maid o hotel staff o seaman o construction worker man ang trabaho nila, marangal ang katayuan nila at natutunan natin ang dignity of labor. Ang problema sa kaso ng Japan na kung saan halos Japayuki ang pinapadala dito, ni hindi natin pwedeng ipagmalaki ang pagbibilad ng katawan ng mga kababaihan natin. At dahil sa “religiously devout Catholics” tayo (kuno), meron talagang moral dilema.
Ang masakit pa niyan, pinagpipilitan ng gobyerno natin na pabayaan tayo ng bansang Hapon na ipagpatuloy ibenta ang mga babae natin. Kung si Erap na siyang kilala bilang macho babaero sana ang presidente, maiintindihan ko pa - pero si GMA na siya pang babae ang nagpupursige na ibugaw ang kapwa niyang Pilipina, menor de edad pa yung iba. Talagang masakit!
Additional information para mas lalo kayong magalit: ang mga Japanese recruiter ay kailangan magbayad ng 7350 yen bilang verification fee sa Philippine embassy para sa bawat entertainer na dalhin nila sa Japan. Dahil 80,000 ang dumating last year, halos 600 million yen ang na-collect mula sa fee na ito. Ang perang ito ay tina-turn over sa national government bilang income, na siya namang inuubos ng mga congressman sa mga dubious projects nila at ng mga politiko sa corruption. Meanwhile, hindi mabigyan ng sapat na budget ang embassy para sa assistance to nationals, at tuwing meron na namang bangkay ng Pinay ang di matubos sa morgue, nanlilimos ang embassy ng contributions mula sa Filipino community para maipadala ang namatay sa Pinas. Kayo na ang humatol: yan ba ang makatarungan na gamit ng perang pinagpalit sa kaluluwa at pinagpawisan ng dugo ng mga Japayuki? Yan ba ang tamang trato sa hinahalang ng presidente natin bilang new heroes?
I rest my case, bow, ang kangkong… :mad:
Dax
02-24-2005, 10:53 AM
Ang pagkaka-alam ko nire-recruit sila as entertainers tulad ng “dancers” o “singers”. Pero ang totoo ang karamihan sa kanila ay nagiging bar hostesses, yung iba naman nagiging “dancer” at “singer” din pero ibang klaseng sayaw at kanta ang pinapagawa sa kanila. :eek: Sino ang may kasalanan? Sila mismo? Yung employers? O recruiters? Malamang habang nire-recruit pa lang sila ay alam na nilang mapupunta sa ibang trabaho ang kanilang a-applyan, pero pasok pa din sila, para lang makakuha ng hanap-buhay na makakapag-sustento sa kanilang pamilya.
Boto ako sa ginawa ng GOJ na ilimit ang bilang ng mga Japayuki. Pero hindi ako boto sa pagbubulag-bulagan nila sa kapwa nilang Hapon na siyang namamahala sa mga Japayuki. Dapat lang na maging mahigpit din sila sa employers, na siyang “sanhi” ng problema.
Tulad ng sinabi ni pointblank binubugaw ni GMA ang mga kababaihan natin. Inis na inis at hiyang hiya ako nung nabasa ko sa news yung pag-“onegai” ni Romulo sa GOJ para i-extend ang simula ng bagong batas. :mad: 
Masakit sa bulsa ng RP ang mababawas sa remittances. At maraming magiging jobless. Pero sana itong bagong batas ay maging isang paraan para mabawasan ang dungis ng salitang “Filipina”. 
mayen
08-08-2005, 12:04 PM
Ang masakit pa niyan, pinagpipilitan ng gobyerno natin na pabayaan tayo ng bansang Hapon na ipagpatuloy ibenta ang mga babae natin. Kung si Erap na siyang kilala bilang macho babaero sana ang presidente, maiintindihan ko pa - pero si GMA na siya pang babae ang nagpupursige na ibugaw ang kapwa niyang Pilipina, menor de edad pa yung iba. Talagang masakit!
Pointblank,
Talaga namang BUGAW si GMA kahit nga sarili nyang bayan tulad nalang nang street bar sa Pampanga.Alam naman nang lahat na taga Pampanga si Arroyo at Gov. pa anak nya sa Pampanga. Pero wala silang ginawa para dito kinunsinti pa nya ang mga dayuhan na mag-invest.Umabot nang isang daan ang bar sa may Angeles City.Kawawa naman ang mga kababaehang nabibiktima nito.Hindi na ako magtataka na wala syang aksyon laban sa lantarang bentahan nang laman dito sa Japan.
Teddy
08-08-2005, 01:21 PM
I’ve seen(I’m sure you’ve all seen) a lot of Japanese(60-70 something)-Pilipina(20 something) couples. They only look like grandfathers and grandchildren, such relationship is quite rare between Japanese couples and Pilipino couples. Their relationship is, I think, also quite practical rather than romantic. I may be wrong. It just seems to me that Pilipinas are sacrificing themselves to support their families in their country. Japanese men tend to get mad at them because some Pilipinas only see them as source of money even though Japanese men have been fully aware of it all the way ever since thier relationship started. I may be wrong… No offense meant to anybody… I only hope they are all happy. I just wonder if they really are… because some of my ex bosses(Japanese) were dating or married to Pilipinas and they seemed to be always quarreling because of thier differences of thoughts. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone. I really didn’t mean it. I’m just curious what Pilipino people think about thier relationship from thier point of view.
logical
08-08-2005, 06:08 PM
let’s admit the fact na almost 90% ng mga entertainers from the Philippines ay bumabagsak lang na HOSTESS ang trabaho dito sa Japan. And in this case nothing can be done, unless the Japanese Government strictly ban the working of female hostesses, not only applied to foreigners but to japanese as well. But the government remain silent about this issue, because its a BILLION DOLLAR business, the bottomline here is MONEY. The government also earn from this kind of business.
…so ano pa ang magagawa nating mga pinoy, sa hirap ba naman ng buhay sa pinas. tsaka, is there something wrong kung ang isang babae ay hostess? anu ba ang definition ng trabahong HOSTESS???
makulit
08-08-2005, 07:19 PM
I’ve seen(I’m sure you’ve all seen) a lot of Japanese(60-70 something)-Pilipina(20 something) couples. They only look like grandfathers and grandchildren, such relationship is quite rare between Japanese couples and Pilipino couples. Their relationship is, I think, also quite practical rather than romantic. I may be wrong. It just seems to me that Pilipinas are sacrificing themselves to support their families in their country. Japanese men tend to get mad at them because some Pilipinas only see them as source of money even though Japanese men have been fully aware of it all the way ever since thier relationship started. I may be wrong… No offense meant to anybody… I only hope they are all happy. I just wonder if they really are… because some of my ex bosses(Japanese) were dating or married to Pilipinas and they seemed to be always quarreling because of thier differences of thoughts. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone. I really didn’t mean it. I’m just curious what Pilipino people think about thier relationship from thier point of view. I think frequent fights is not only because of difference in thoughts. Regardless of age, two people coming from different nation, different culture. If either one is not willing to compromise or at least try to understand the other, it will all just lead to misunderstanding and eventually they will just keep on fighting.
I believe that Japanese men who are in their 60’s or something, already knew the fact that any woman is marrying them for money. Am sure there is some exemption. There must be some couples out there who really got married because they want to spend their lives together and not because the other one is having the means to support her and her family back home.
I dont really know japanese-pilipino couple who falls under this category so I cant really say much on the subject. What do I think about it? I think they dont get the respect that they deserve. I have seen some couples at Immigration Office. I really pity the Filipina. Cause husbands just order them around. Just like one instance at the convenience store while waiting for my turn to pay for my visa extension. Husband told Filipina wife to get him magazines, coffee, etc. She was in line in front me and we are inside the convenience store! Coffee and Magazine stand are just 10 steps away! Why ask the wife to get it for him, when he can do it himself? Filipina wife came back with coffee and magazine. Showed her husband what she bought and he made a face. Didnt like what she bought … hay … saan ka naman
nakakita ng asawa ng ganyan … pinagsilbihan mo na … sinimangutan ka pa! Pag ganyan ang asawa mo kailangan mataas ang level ng patience at tolerance mo …
Dkid
08-08-2005, 10:08 PM
May kasama po akong hapon dito sa trabaho namin, he is 44. May girlfriend po siya (yun ang sabi niya) na isang talento 6 months contract doon po sa Ibaraki prefecture. 18 years old filipina (dinoktor lang raw ang edad para makapasok dito.
Tuwing pupunta siya sa omese, i timing nya from 12midnight onwards. Yun daw ang advice ng tencho ng omese sa kanya, dahil mula 9pm-11pm, may mga taga immigration raw nagtsetsek(kuno), kaya puro cultural shows(dance/singing) lang raw sa omese at hindi pwede tomibol ang mga girls. Sinabi pa nga raw ng tencho na, sila mismo sa immigration ang nagsabi sa kanila kung anong dapat gawin.
Kaya mas gusto ng kasama ko na past 12 midnight na siya pupunta sa omese para makatibol niya yung girlfriend (kuno), at kumandong pa raw ang kawawa nating kababayan dahil yun ang utos ng tencho. Lahat raw kelangang kumandong with bodyfit budweiser super mini one piece, otherwise mapaaga ang uwi nila.
I think the GOJ is right in changing the rules, if they really are sincere, otherwise, mukhang tama yung madalas bigkasin ng mga taga omese:“nihonjin dakara” —osotsuki datte!!!
lovered
08-31-2005, 02:02 PM
siguro dapat nga na magkaroon ng limit ang pag punta ng mga japayukis…dati din akong talento ang masasabi ko ibang-iba ang patakaran ng mga omise ngayon kesa noon…sa ngayon sobrang naggagambaru ang mga talento para makakuha ng maraming costumer para din ma extend pa ang visa nila for another 3mos so ang kawawang talento gagawin ang lahat para sa isang kustomer
City_rabbit
08-31-2005, 02:43 PM
I think frequent fights is not only because of difference in thoughts. Regardless of age, two people coming from different nation, different culture. If either one is not willing to compromise or at least try to understand the other, it will all just lead to misunderstanding and eventually they will just keep on fighting.
Yes, I do not think culture or nationality is the issue. Regardless of color of the skin, religion, or what have you - a man and woman’s relationship depends on their mutual respect, communication and love for each other.
I do not think nationality really matters- even Filipino-Filipino couples argue and fight; American-American couples - or any couple even of the same nationality have their differences… so maybe international couples have more differences… ne?
But again, it is how both relate to each other - good and effective communication is essential.
I agree with Pointblank, Dax and Teddy too - of course these Filipinas marry or get into relationships with Japanese with the hope that their lives would improve, economically basically… sometimes I pity the Filipinas but there are also times that, I don’t.
There are some “Japayukis” who are so “mayabang” and flaunt to the world by the clothes they wear or by their actions and words- as if saying “look I am a Japayuki” - that Japayuki attitude I cannot stand.
One time, there was this lady on the plane who was speaking - her words were so “gehin” or vulgar - it was really so dirty…I could not stop myself- I looked back and said, "are you Filipina? Where is your self esteem or pride? Please do not speak that way- she just looked at me and “made a face” - but I got scared the moment I realised her boyfriend was a “ya-chan”. Afraid!
A few weeks ago at Yotsuya church, would you believe there was this lady, who wore a very pink dress, ala satin or "kurtina material "- so shinny like those they wear in the fiesta in the barrios - the dress was mini skirt, the top was a tube blouse… to top it all she had high heels… like wow- you don’t wear that to church…her boyfriend next to her was “feeling showbiz” - complete with sunglasses, jeans that were almost ready to fall down - what a pair! That is saying to the world “look at me, I am a Japayuki…” - after mass, the priest reminded everyone something to the effect like - “it is summer time, but please be more modest in what you wear to church…”
Anyway- again, it is in the communication - the way you carry yourself, the way you wear your clothes - these speak so much of who you are…
What I am trying to say is that, there is nothing wrong in being a Japayuki, to work hard for your family…but again, it is how you behave.
adechan
09-02-2005, 04:36 PM
marami po akong kakilala … mga nagtatrabaho sa gabi …
contract workers … overstays … even already married filipinas and having children …
whatever it is
ang pray ko po … lahat ay maka-graduate na sa panggabing trabahong iyan .
praying that there will be other ways of having an income rather than working at night clubs.
adechan
09-02-2005, 04:48 PM
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…so ano pa ang magagawa nating mga pinoy, sa hirap ba naman ng buhay sa pinas. tsaka, is there something wrong kung ang isang babae ay hostess? anu ba ang definition ng trabahong HOSTESS???
ang trabaho nang Hostess
aliwin ang customer (kanya-kanyang style at depende sa costumer, pano kung ma__li__g?)
pa-orderin (ng marami kung maaari para malaking kita nang omise )
pa-inumin ng ALAk (painumin nang marami para malaking kita nang omise)
painan upang bumalik ulit sa omise (kanya kanyang style na iyan, dohan? doko made?)
even working with a good conscience just for the sake of earning money … we’re dealing with the nature of the job
i was once working at night and thanking God for letting me out, so i can tell
piNkAhOLiC
10-05-2005, 06:34 AM
WHEN Japan implements its new immigration rules in March, 90 percent of the Filipino entertainers there will no longer be qualified to work in that country again. Given the US$351 million that these “japayukis” have been sending home yearly, the government’s instinct was to ask Japan to postpone the implementation of the new rules.
Read more > (http://partners.inq7.net/newsbreak/istories/index.php?story_id=2 7389)
Nais ko lang sanag malaman ang opinyon nyo tungkol dito, lalo na dun sa mga matagal nang nakatira sa Japan. TY!
I think japan is under pressure from the US because of the prevalent human trafficking. I do remember that Japan’s PM Junichiro Koizumi is an ally of the US ,which i guess explains their decision. I don’t know if its good or not?! Because certainly that would mean scores of jobless people in the Philippines and other countries affected or probably scores of people that would be saved from harm (human trafficking)…
My POV: I know that Japan’s defense is an economic move. they just would not want to accept everybody now that they are starting to open up. everyone has to be filtered. they may have the plan of reducing the number of entertainers but there are rumors that they’ll be welcoming healthcare workers (and under negotiations are other areas of manpower services.)
By the way, most of us has this silly misconception of connoting “entertainers” as “indecent gro’s”… Some might be crossing the line but there are still people who are purely entertainers. There’s no blaming here since what catches our attention are news about failures, distress and negative plights of these people…:halo:
han
10-05-2005, 11:42 AM
i see many ads here looking for hostess and entertainers. i think, those who have the looks and talents should have the same right and respect from others who are working using their brains and education. though, prostitution is entirely one different topic, miski mga office workers and scholars here in japan can be prostituted (abused, corrupted in many ways, not just sexual) by their company or university, or prostitute themselves (again, not just sexual). prostitution is in the heart, and not in the nature of one’s job. i think, it has been mentioned earlier in this forum, that japayuki refers to japanese women who went abroad to serve as prostitutes in the earlier days. let us save our kababayans from such labels. they are not called japayukis anymore di ba, they are called as talento, more apt and respectable.
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