makulit
07-29-2005, 08:53 PM
Sa mga IT people po. Would you join an Inernational Company, get a very high paying job but the job sucks cause it will be the same and mainly program maintenance and there’s no guarantee that you can keep your job for life. Or would you opt for a challenging job with a Japanese Company, that will treat you like a family, OK OK salary, new projects will always come and you never have to worry about getting fired.
What do u think?
v_wrangler
07-29-2005, 09:05 PM
Sa mga IT people po. Would you join an Inernational Company, get a very high paying job but the job sucks cause it will be the same and mainly program maintenance and there’s no guarantee that you can keep your job for life. Or would you opt for a challenging job with a Japanese Company, that will treat you like a family, OK OK salary, new projects will always come and you never have to worry about getting fired.
What do u think? Depende kung anong plano mo sa iyong future sa Japan. If you intend on going back to the Philippines in a few years time - eh mas maganda siguro kung mapuno mo ang iyong bulsa. Never worrying about getting fired is a myth nowadays. The best thing to consider lalo na sa Japan ss to find work that pleases you. Make a career out of something that you enjoy. Otherwise, mabubulok ka lang at mabo-bore sa trabaho…and you’ll end up going in circles…
neblus
07-30-2005, 01:14 AM
… tama iyong sinabi ni v_wrangler…
and also, try to be the best in what you do. Ano ngayon kung tanggalin ka sa trabaho? If you are the best in your field, then sigurado namang makakakuha ka ng bagong trabaho. (And not only in IT. If you are the best “dancer” among the entertainers, dont you think walang kukuha sa iyo?)
makulit
07-30-2005, 02:31 AM
Thanks for all your thoughts …
Well, first if you are living in Japan and you got released from your contract. Its going to be very difficult to survive specially if your family is with you. Surely, Social Insurance will cover your unemployment period but that’s enough for just paying rent and utilities. Besides, if you have a family, you will not have the attitude of ‘e ano kung tanggalin ako’. Hindi ka magiging padalos-dalos sa desisyon. Unang-una hindi na yung sarili mo ang iniisip mo, asawa at anak mo na lang lagi. Kahit may ipon ka, pag nawalan ka ng trabaho, you have to dig in to your reserves. Minimum you will spend at least 15 man a month minus utilities and apartment rent. Pag pumapasok pa sa school ang anak mo mas malaking problema.
And to answer v_wrangler … no I dont have plans of going back to Philippines permanently. This is where we want to be. There is no place in the world, where you can walk at 3 o clock in the morning and no one will bother you …
NemoySpruce
07-30-2005, 03:55 AM
The Japanese IT industry is doing well in Japan but is being kicked in the butt by western companies such as IBM HP Dell Accenture… Software developed by Japanese are used by Japanese businesses and are not doing well globally. The Global superpowers are mostly American. Microsoft, Google, IBM … eto ang mga bigboys ng IT. Sa tingin ko, the reason why Japanese IT is not doing as well as American firms is because of the Japanese working style. Slow but sure ang Japanese, ang mga Americano mga Indiana Jones… takbo nga takbo…pag may threat…react. Sa ngayon, sobrang bilis pa ang advancement ng technology ng mga computers, kaya hindi pa napapansin ang weaknesses ng style ng amerikano. Take Microsoft for example, sobrang bubulok ng OS na inilalabas nila. San ka nakakita ng produkto na ibinenta sayo na hindi pa tapos gawin. Para kang bumili ng kotse na hangan 3rd gear lang muna, antayin mo yung patch para magamit mo hangang fourth gear… kalokohan diba? pero kasi sobrang bilis ng advancement, bago makareklamo mga users, eh may bagong version na na lalabas, na kelangan mong bayaran uli, kasi bago na rin mga CPU at tumaas na din ang Hard disk space so…palitan mo na din OS. Bago ka makahinga, upgred na. The Japanese will rarely do business this way. Sila pag naglabas ng produkto, dapat pulido, ayus lahat…amproblema, para magawa mong pulido, matagal… pag tapos mo gawin ang systema, lipas na. di mo pa nabenta, kelangan mo na uli gumawa ng bago… luge nigosyo. Pero kung ako tatanongin, mas gusto ko na solid ang inaapakan ko. I would rather stay with a Japanese firm, medyo slow nga ang advancement compared sa ibang western companies, pero mas kampante ka, indi ka man makakasiguro dahil sa panahon ngayon, you still have more stability with a Japanese firm than with a Gung-ho american firm. However, If I had money to invest, sa stocks kunwari… I would invest sa American firms, kasi mga paakyat yan mga yan. mabibilis, agresibo, bantayan mo lang yung pag bagsak ng stock… medyo napalayo na ata sa thread… basta, work for a Japanese firm and invest in Americans or western, yan ang da best, sa tingin ko. - ipagpaumanhin nyo na antok na ko, kelangan ko lang ng kausap. salamat sa pakikinig… nyt nyt.
v_wrangler
07-30-2005, 10:01 AM
Thanks for all your thoughts …
Well, first if you are living in Japan and you got released from your contract. Its going to be very difficult to survive specially if your family is with you. Surely, Social Insurance will cover your unemployment period but that’s enough for just paying rent and utilities. Besides, if you have a family, you will not have the attitude of ‘e ano kung tanggalin ako’. Hindi ka magiging padalos-dalos sa desisyon. Unang-una hindi na yung sarili mo ang iniisip mo, asawa at anak mo na lang lagi. Kahit may ipon ka, pag nawalan ka ng trabaho, you have to dig in to your reserves. Minimum you will spend at least 15 man a month minus utilities and apartment rent. Pag pumapasok pa sa school ang anak mo mas malaking problema.
Hello Makulit, I guess you have answered your own questions already:) Its all in the priorities. Yan lang talaga ang makapagdedecide kung ano ang iyong magiging action. Ganbatte Kudasai!
reon
07-30-2005, 05:35 PM
nice posts here. marami rin akong napupulot. ganbatte makulit!
pointblank
07-30-2005, 10:56 PM
As a looooong timer here, I can share with you some of my views, but you have to decide kung ano ang tama sa 'yo.
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Japanese companies are changing. Compared to Western companies, mas hesitant sila magtanggal ng tao, but the “lifetime employment” they used to implicitly promise is no longer there. Pag hindi na tumutubo yung kumpanya, eventually ay magtatanggal din sila. So make sure na hindi ka expendable.
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Remember that IT is a comparatively new field, with younger companies : they are less tradition-bound. In other words, mas malaki ang tendency nilang magtanggal ng tao!
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Kung magaling ka talaga, you will not be expendable whether the company is Western or Japanese. Ang problema lang sa Western companies, parang Superstar na prima donna sa set ng shooting - mabilis mag-pack-up. Pag naka-experience ng several quarters na lugi sila, withdraw from Japan bigla. So, kahit na hindi ka expendable, mawawalan ka naman ng kumpanya! So choose a Western firm with a FIRM and PROVEN commitment to Japan.
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Yung social insurance - i-check mo ang eligibility mo. I do not have my references with me now, kaya wala akong exact figures. Pero kailangan ay nakapagbayad ka ng a certain number of months bago ka bibigyan ng unemployment allowance. If I am not mistaken, hindi lang buwan kundi taon ang minimum contribution sa sistema. Hindi katulad ng Canada na after 3 or 6 months yata ay pensionado ka na. Kuripot ang Japanese system compared to other First World countries.
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Everyone has to find his own balance between personal happiness, financial gain and emotional security. If the job at the Japanese company is as good as you describe it, and the pay is not bad naman (hindi ka kinakapos, nakaka-ipon ka ng kahit kaunti) - what is your dissatisfaction? Pero kung feeling mo na kailangan mong tumiba nga malaki - calculate the risks and if it seems reasonable to you, go ka na sa Western company.
Mahirap talaga ang mga career decisions, lalo na kung may pamilya na involved. Magdasal ka for wisdom, discuss it with your wife, then make the decision without looking back. Best wishes!
makulit
07-30-2005, 11:09 PM
Hi Pointblank. Maraming salamat sa iyong reply.
I’ve been working for the same japanese company for the last 7 years. And mula umpisa pa lang nagbabayad na ako ng social insurance.
goldhorse
07-31-2005, 01:57 AM
Isa pang consideration para mag stay sa isang company ng matagal ay retirement benefits. Siyempre mas matagal ka sa kumpanya mas malaki ang ibibigay sa iyo pag retire mo.
Hi Pointblank. Maraming salamat sa iyong reply.
I’ve been working for the same japanese company for the last 7 years. And mula umpisa pa lang nagbabayad na ako ng social insurance.
prettylily_1203
08-08-2005, 01:07 AM
Thanks for all your thoughts …
Well, first if you are living in Japan and you got released from your contract. Its going to be very difficult to survive specially if your family is with you. Surely, Social Insurance will cover your unemployment period but that’s enough for just paying rent and utilities. Besides, if you have a family, you will not have the attitude of ‘e ano kung tanggalin ako’. Hindi ka magiging padalos-dalos sa desisyon. Unang-una hindi na yung sarili mo ang iniisip mo, asawa at anak mo na lang lagi. Kahit may ipon ka, pag nawalan ka ng trabaho, you have to dig in to your reserves. Minimum you will spend at least 15 man a month minus utilities and apartment rent. Pag pumapasok pa sa school ang anak mo mas malaking problema.
And to answer v_wrangler … no I dont have plans of going back to Philippines permanently. This is where we want to be. There is no place in the world, where you can walk at 3 o clock in the morning and no one will bother you …
Just want to share you my experienced last year of October. Pauwi na ako sa apartment k ng 5:00 ng madaling araw galing sa Philippine Restaurant dito sa Yokkaichi. I attended the b-day party ng isa rin nating kababayan dito. Since malapit lang naman ang apt. k at puedeng lakarin ganoon na nga ang ginawa k. Winter that time kaya kahit 5:00 ng madaling araw medyo madilim pa. While walking, may dumating na kotse sa likod at hinablot ng 1 lalaki na nakasakay sa passenger seat sa unahan ang shoulder bag k , kasama na akong nakaladkad. At first, I thought na nasagi lang ako ng sasakyan since mabagal ang takbo nila but the moment na nahila ang bag k ang bilis na ng car. My friend starts shouting “dorubo” , at bigla pang huminto ang car at bumaba ang 1 lalaki. Mabuti na lang may napadaan na van at huminto. Ng makita nila ito biglang sakay nung lalaki at mabilis na pinaandar ang car nila. I wasn’t able too see them but my friend told the police na mga kabataan pa ito. Until now, di pa naaalis ang scar sa kamay k gawa ng strap ng bag k. Until now I haven’t heard from the police kung nahuli na. Kaya cguro dapat na rin tayong magingat. Before I was really convinced that Japan is safe to lived but after that incident kahit malapit ang apt. nagtataxi ako kahit galit ang ilang drivers…:mad:
makulit
08-08-2005, 10:34 PM
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Just want to share you my experienced last year of October. Pauwi na ako sa apartment k ng 5:00 ng madaling araw galing sa Philippine Restaurant dito sa Yokkaichi. I attended the b-day party ng isa rin nating kababayan dito. Since malapit lang naman ang apt. k at puedeng lakarin ganoon na nga ang ginawa k. Winter that time kaya kahit 5:00 ng madaling araw medyo madilim pa. While walking, may dumating na kotse sa likod at hinablot ng 1 lalaki na nakasakay sa passenger seat sa unahan ang shoulder bag k , kasama na akong nakaladkad. At first, I thought na nasagi lang ako ng sasakyan since mabagal ang takbo nila but the moment na nahila ang bag k ang bilis na ng car. My friend starts shouting “dorubo” , at bigla pang huminto ang car at bumaba ang 1 lalaki. Mabuti na lang may napadaan na van at huminto. Ng makita nila ito biglang sakay nung lalaki at mabilis na pinaandar ang car nila. I wasn’t able too see them but my friend told the police na mga kabataan pa ito. Until now, di pa naaalis ang scar sa kamay k gawa ng strap ng bag k. Until now I haven’t heard from the police kung nahuli na. Kaya cguro dapat na rin tayong magingat. Before I was really convinced that Japan is safe to lived but after that incident kahit malapit ang apt. nagtataxi ako kahit galit ang ilang drivers…:mad:
:eek: Really Prettylily_1203? First time ko nakarinig ng ganyan. Take Care.
prettylily_1203
08-09-2005, 12:47 AM
kaya mag-ingat na lang. sa place mo baka wala pang nangyaring ganito… dito sa Yokkaichi marami ng incident na ganito… Take care also…
liz_2013
04-09-2008, 11:54 AM
tapat tapat lang yan… parang kamatayan, kahit anong ingat mo kung mamamatay ka na talagang mamamatay ka na, kahit tulog pwedeng bangungutin, kahit nasa loob ng bahay pwedeng mabagsakan ng eroplanong nag crash… morbid bko masyado?
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