rape case in subic

mcgregor

11-18-2005, 06:45 PM

what do you guys think about the rape case in subic? do you think we’re gonna gain jurisdiction in the case? if so, do you think it will lead to prosecution?

i believe there has been a similar case here in japan. in 1995, i think there was this popular rape case committed by US servicemen against a young Okinawan school girl that lead to the rapists’ conviction. im not sure though if that was the norm. or exceptional ba yon because of the humungous rally brought about by the japanese people’s outrage?

i am kind of anxious about the zamboangan victim. i wonder if she will get justice. :frowning:

adechan

11-18-2005, 10:33 PM

what do you guys think about the rape case in subic? do you think we’re gonna gain jurisdiction in the case? if so, do you think it will lead to prosecution?

i believe there has been a similar case here in japan. in 1995, i think there was this popular rape case committed by US servicemen against a young Okinawan school girl that lead to the rapists’ conviction. im not sure though if that was the norm. or exceptional ba yon because of the humungous rally brought about by the japanese people’s outrage?

i am kind of anxious about the zamboangan victim. i wonder if she will get justice. :frowning:

hi there … nice to meet you here,

what is the story about the rape case in subic? probably most of us don’t know the facts about that, please tell us the whole story.

by the way … i responded because i was been raised at olongapo, subic

adelina

Raiden

11-19-2005, 04:52 AM

hi there … nice to meet you here,

what is the story about the rape case in subic? probably most of us don’t know the facts about that, please tell us the whole story.

by the way … i responded because i was been raised at olongapo, subic

adelina

Hello Adechan,

Here’s the story of when it all began. http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=7&id=354272&display=all

mcgregor

11-19-2005, 04:04 PM

ah, the story, gomenasai.

well it happened last november 1. a 22-year old girl from zamboanga went to subic with her step-sister. they went to a bar, the girl came out with 5 US servicemen rode in their van and cried that she was raped.

as per the original testimony of the driver of the van, who’s a filipino, she was dumped almost naked after the incident.

this came out in the news last november 2. it was highly publicized in the philippines bringing to the fore issues like abrogation of the vfa purportedly because it was instrumental to the incident.

people’s organizations are wary that she might not get justice because we might not be able to gain jurisdiction of the case because of the stipulations in the vfa that we can gain custody of the case only if the US allows it.

apparently, there has been thousands of offenses committed by US militarymen in the philippines, which were not resolved precisely because we could not gain jurisdiction.

many people are afraid that the zamboangan may just add up to the statistics.:frowning:

in japan, i believe there has been plenty of offenses too committed against the okinawans by US servicemen. that’s why the people are calling for the pull out of the bases. i believe bush’s recent visit in kyoto was propelled by the need to negotiate with koizumi regarding the military bases in okinawa. or at least it’s one of the reasons why bush came here.

adechan

11-19-2005, 07:41 PM

Hello Adechan,

Here’s the story of when it all began. http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=7&id=354272&display=all

Raiden, thank you for leading me to the site, nabasa ko pati iyong mga comments … grabe

thank you.

adechan

11-19-2005, 07:48 PM

people’s organizations are wary that she might not get justice because we might not be able to gain jurisdiction of the case because of the stipulations in the vfa that we can gain custody of the case only if the US allows it.

apparently, there has been thousands of offenses committed by US militarymen in the philippines, which were not resolved precisely because we could not gain jurisdiction.

thank you, tagal ko nang di nag-cha-chat … mukang makikibalita yata ako ngayon sa mga kababayan ko doon, kung anong mga kuro kuro nila

hindi na nga bago ang ganitong maga case.

poor victim.

lilo

11-19-2005, 08:20 PM

apparently, there has been thousands of offenses committed by US militarymen in the philippines, which were not resolved precisely because we could not gain jurisdiction.

it’ll probably be harder to pin them down now because they were allowed to come back here in japan. apparently they can not detain them in the philippines because of the vfa agreement.

Maruchan

11-20-2005, 12:10 AM

Wala pa akong maibibigay na full comment kasi hindi ko pa naririding ang panig ng lahat. But I heard a very disturbing (and a very sad) news a few days ago sa ABS-CBN. Ang ate ng na rape, eh, nakipagkita yata sa American boyfriend niya kaya sila na sa drinking bar. Tapos noong umuwi na ang ate, hindi siya sumama sa hotel at nagpaiwan siya to continue drinking to apparently five already drank American servicemen na hindi naman niya barkada o kakilala ng lubusan. On that day lang yata sila nag-meet. I don’t understand why she has to take that kind of risk. I know it does not excuse the ill conduct and brutal actions of the five American servicemen. Kung guilty sila dabat lang silang parusahan. Kahit na no means no…dapat pa din tayo magingat lalo na ang mga kabataan ngayon. Iba talaga ang tama ng alak sa iba’t-ibang tao. Sabi nga ng iba…kapag uminom ka…diyan ka madaling sapian ng dimonyo kasi iba ang nagagawa ng sobrang paginom. Nawawala ang total control ba.

Ang isa pa, eh, Filipino naman pala ang driver ng van nila…I don’t understand kung paano nagawa at na take ng driver na iyon na hayaan lang ang ginagawa ng mga American servicemen sa dalaga. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. :frowning: So sad…

mcgregor

11-20-2005, 06:36 PM

“Filipino naman pala ang driver ng van nila…I don’t understand kung paano nagawa at na take ng driver na iyon na hayaan lang ang ginagawa ng mga American servicemen sa dalaga. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. :frowning: So sad.”

true ka jan, maruchan. sad talaga. hindi man lang naipagtanggol ang kababayan. sya ang unang nakunan ng statement. kakasuhan din yata sya as accomplice.

Raiden

01-16-2006, 03:05 PM

Ang latest na balita tungkol sa kaso na ito ay naakusahan na at may warrant of arrest para sa apat na marines. Pero hindi yata ibibigay ang custody ng mga marines sa Pilipinas.

Eto yung link.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060113/ap_on_re_as/philippines_us_marin es_2

mcgregor

01-16-2006, 10:43 PM

thanks raiden-san for the update.

i came across these sites and couldn’t help but compare the two incidents:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn200 60108a1.htm

http://www.inq7.net/globalnation/sec_new/2006/jan/09-02.htm

i don’t really wanna think that one nation is more favored than the other or that japanese negotiators/legislators/diplomats are wittier than their filipino counterparts. nor economic might has anything to do with the agreements but, that’s a tough endeavour, ne?

nakakalungkot lang talaga kapag nakakarinig ng ganitong mga balita. if indeed the woman was raped, sana lang the state can help her find justice and not contribute to her defilement. :frowning:

adechan

06-03-2006, 01:50 PM

Rape trial of 4 US servicemen set Friday

First posted 06:08pm (Mla time) June 01, 2006
By Tetch Torres
INQ7.net

THE TRIAL of four US servicemen accused of raping a Filipina will start on Friday with the prosecution presenting its evidence before a local court.

Chief State Prosecutor Jovencito Zuño said the panel, headed by Senior State Prosecutor Emily Delos Santos, met with him Wednesday.

read more … (http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=77737)

adechan

08-20-2006, 07:03 PM

Prosecution ends presentation in celebrated Subic rape case
Evidences, Testimonies, Point to Accused U.S. Marine
As the prosecution panel in the Subic rape case trial ends its presentation of witnesses and evidence, its lawyers are confident that they have pieced out the puzzle showing the four accused U.S. Marines guilty.
BY JHONG DELA CRUZ
Bulatlat
Prosecution lawyers in the Subic rape case ended their presentation on Aug. 17, with a police expert confirming that the DNA sample found in the Filipina victim’s underwear indeed belonged to principal accused Lance Corporal Daniel Smith.
Lead prosecutor Evalyn Ursua expressed confidence their evidences and the witnesses・testimonie s had pieced out the puzzle of the fateful Nov. 1, 2005 when four U.S. Marines allegedly raped a 22-year-old Filipino woman.
Also accused with Smith are Lance Corporals Dominic Duplantis and Keith Silkwood and Staff Sergeant Chad Carpentier

to READ MORE (http://www.timog.com/forum/Prosecution ends presentation in celebrated Subic rape case)

mOtt_erU

09-19-2006, 10:37 PM

…nakakalungkot at Nakakaawa talaga si “NICOLE”… hindi ito ang tunay na pangalan…pero siya ang Biktima sa Subic Rape case… hanggang ngayon nililitis pa rin ang kaso…sana maparusahan ang dapat at makamit ang hustisya ni Nicole.

mcgregor

10-04-2006, 11:01 PM

grabe nman ang nangyayari sa atin-
may presyo ang hustisya.

state prosecutor pa ang ahente ng akusado

ino-offer-an na ang biktima ng US citizenship
name-you-price-to-start-a-new-life-in-America-mode

nakaka-dismaya.
pero baka interesado kayong basahin.
update sa kaso ni nicole:

http://newsinfo.inq7.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?art icle_id=24796

love0308

10-04-2006, 11:08 PM

Well alam naman natin sa Philippines pag foreigner ang kasangkot sa crime marami pang pasikot sikot yan!:mad:

infinite_trial

11-24-2006, 03:08 PM

(UPDATE) FOUR US Marines who have been on trial in the Philippines for rape had their verdict delayed Friday until December 4 after the judge said he needed another week to study the evidence.

In an interim order, Judge Benjamin Pozon of the Makati regional trial court cited the “voluminous records of the case” as the reason for the delay in his promulgation of the Subic rape case.

full article here (http://services.inquirer.ne t/express/06/11/24/html_output/xmlhtml/20061124-34535-xml.html)

mOtt_erU

11-27-2006, 12:04 AM

Wala pa akong maibibigay na full comment kasi hindi ko pa naririding ang panig ng lahat. But I heard a very disturbing (and a very sad) news a few days ago sa ABS-CBN. Ang ate ng na rape, eh, nakipagkita yata sa American boyfriend niya kaya sila na sa drinking bar. Tapos noong umuwi na ang ate, hindi siya sumama sa hotel at nagpaiwan siya to continue drinking to apparently five already drank American servicemen na hindi naman niya barkada o kakilala ng lubusan. On that day lang yata sila nag-meet. I don’t understand why she has to take that kind of risk. I know it does not excuse the ill conduct and brutal actions of the five American servicemen. Kung guilty sila dabat lang silang parusahan. Kahit na no means no…dapat pa din tayo magingat lalo na ang mga kabataan ngayon. Iba talaga ang tama ng alak sa iba’t-ibang tao. Sabi nga ng iba…kapag uminom ka…diyan ka madaling sapian ng dimonyo kasi iba ang nagagawa ng sobrang paginom. Nawawala ang total control ba.

Ang isa pa, eh, Filipino naman pala ang driver ng van nila…I don’t understand kung paano nagawa at na take ng driver na iyon na hayaan lang ang ginagawa ng mga American servicemen sa dalaga. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. :frowning: So sad…

tama ka jan Maruchan…Pinoy ang driver nung Van na nagsakay sa kanila…
Nung una nga tetistigo dapat yang driver against sa mga American servicemen kaso ilang araw lang eh naiba ang ihip ng hangin… hindi na daw…at lahat ng testimonyang sinabi niya eh binawi na din…kawawang driver, maaaring napagbantaan…haaa y sana naman hindi natutulog sa pansitan ang Hustisya saten…

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