Solutions

Paul

08-29-2005, 01:15 PM

I have read a lot of discussions on the 'net regarding the problems facing the Philippines, be it political, economical, social, moral, or whatever someone with access to the internet deems as a problem of our country. And frankly, most of these focus on just that…problems. Our beloved Timog Forum has not been spared from this, what with all the discussions about poverty, population explosion, the OFW’s plight, etc. Don’t you find all the negativity depressing? It’s a good thing though, that there are quite a few bright minds here in TF (me, not included) who present sensible solutions to these problems. But I think we could do better.

Sure it’s easy to say the Filipinos should be more responsible, the politicians should stop being corrupt, that we should keep united, that we should always pray. But are these really solutions to our problems? How should the Filipinos be responsible? How should we stop the politicians from stealing the wealth of our nation? How should we unite our brethren, especially since we ourselves are part of those who have fled our country to look for greener pastures? Can prayer really solve our problems?

The problems being faced by the Philippines are complicated in nature, our problems with the economy are tightly intertwined with the problems in politics and the social (mis)behavior of our people. There is no ultimate solution short of dropping an atomic bomb over Manila and hoping that the survivors rebuild our country the right way. Hmmm…now that’s a thought (any nuclear scientists in our midst?)

Seriously, why don’t we discuss solutions…feasible solutions…to the problems facing our nation? Two heads are better than one what more with 402 (as of this post)? Propose a solution to a problem, it can be general or it can be specific (specific is better though ;)) then let’s discuss about it. Who knows, maybe we can come up with some solutions (no matter how small they may be) that can be implemented back home and contribute to the development of our country.

This might seem to be veering away from the objectives of TF but since a lot of our members are already keen on discussing about these problems, might as well put them to good use and work on something that may prove worthwhile for our country, if not now then maybe in the future.

I’m not good at expressing my thoughts but I hope you got the message.

NemoySpruce

08-29-2005, 05:04 PM

The Philippines has a ton of problems, but if we look at it from a global perspective, our problems are not unique. Corruption, crime, national dis-unity, dis-illusioned masses… these problems plague first-world countries as well. Big difference is, prosperous countries have a deeper understanding of how ‘money works’, and how to play the game on a global scale. I know it sounds simplistic, but that is the basic difference between us and any First-world country. Pollution? can be solved by installing re-cyling centers and incenerators then paying garbage collectors to gather trash. Traffic? better public transportation system. Crime? Hire and train better policemen. Corruption? Assemble a group of highly paid hotshot lawyers to act as watchdogs against politicians who abuse power, and provide them with high class security and pay them well. Money wont solve all our problems, but Im sure all of our suggested solutions will require money to implement. The common thinking Filipinos have about money is that it is equal to work, hence, to get money you have to work. So you work 8hrs or so a day, 5 times a week, then get a paycheck, buy food, save a little, work some more. This is, I think the most honorable way to earn a living. Problem is, not everybody thinks like this. Take banks for instance, ever wonder how banks make millions in a day? if work = money then it would mean that there should be at least a hundred thousand workers inside the bank making money. Where does it come from? Banks earn primarily from investments and lending. These are activities that also require a little bit of work, but generate an insane amount of money. I think that solutions to our country’s problems will come from this angle. Dapat makaisip tayo ng paraan kung pano masalin ang pera ng economiya ng mundo pa paloob sa ating economiya… post ko pag nakaisip na ko ng paraan :D.

Stacie Fil

08-29-2005, 06:11 PM

Upon reading some of the treads here,it stir up some of the old thought I had then. No doubth,kagaya nang iba, im a Filipino,sagad hanggang utak nang buto.
I also love our flag, anthem ,oath to the republic, and everything that’s goes with it as being Pinoy. Kaso iba na ang panahon ngayon,marami na ang naging pagbabago sa mundo,either positive or negative man.
There has been new inventions, new discoveries, new truths. Our human nature always search for joy or peace of mind, that’s why we always want the truth, . In which we have a saying,“truths will make us free”, eventhough it often hurts.
Sabi nang iba, OK lang daw ang pain, wala naman daw madali.Its all but a state or part of life transition to go one level up.Halimbawa raw eh yung panganganak, or at school, summing up all things prior for graduation.
Maraming bagay ang pwede or dapat baguhin sa atin.Pero, curious lang,
kung sakali lang,paano kung ang mabago ay ang ating flag at national anthem for start?
Hindi na bago ang usapang ito. Marami na rin ang nag suggest na baguhin ito noon pa.
The question is handa na kaya ang tao sa pagbabago. Ano ang immediate at long term effect nito?
The problem is we are caught in a delimma that not all people are ready for a change.
I know that all of us have our own complain.One reality is that marami ang may complain about the Phil na pariwara. Even suggesting to just leave away from it. Surely that will not solve the greater problem.Only the immediate,personal or family level problems perhaps.
Only if we can simply unite our mind, hearth, and actions. May isang usapan at lahat ay susunod.
You will ask,eh bakit flag at anthem ?(ang napagdiskitahan ko)Ewan? Kasi,siguro…ito ang mga unang bagay na natututunan natin,tiim puso, at isa sa mga basic part nang moulding nang mind/personality na di basta makakalimutan .dahil part nang ating identity/family/home
Parang drama sa pelikula. Kung hihingin nang pagkakataon,hindi lang isip,pawis, at luha kundi pati dugo at buhay ay iaalay sa inang bayan.(nakababagabag ba? Walang luluha,pls! :smiley: )(Madrama? Sori kung korni :eek:
Bakit, at alin ang babaguhin kung sakali?Alam ko mahirap lalo’t di naman isasantabi lang yung dati.Ngunit sa pakikibagay sa panahon, dapat sigurong i-edit baga?Bakit di magkaroon nang incentive or competition na ang eight rays ay mga bayan na unang naging (magiging)educated, magalang, productive, tahimik ang mamamayan.Blue symbolize peace and nationalism.Red shall then be equality,one world or universalism kaya. The anthem on the other hand should not focus on fight,anger, “noon pa yun eh”, but defense on protecting love,moral value,brother/sister-hood…one world family. Isang mundo lang naman tayo,at maliit na lamang kung technolohiya ang iisipin.Text lang eh kausap mo na yung mahal mo sa kabilang panig nang mundo. Iba na ang panahon ngayon di ba?
Besides tao lang daw naman talaga ang magulo. Tahimik lang ang mga halaman, puno at hayop, dahit wala sa natural na intensyon/likha nila ang manakit.Kaya wala silang inggit,galit at gyera sa katulad nila kahit sa aling panig nang mundo.Kung iisipin,swerte nang mga ibon, insecto,isda o kahit pa halaman. Nakakatawid/napapadpad …nakararating sila sa ibang panig nang mundo na di kailangan ang show money or visa. Nakakatawa ba? Oo nakakatawa nga.

We all want good change for our beloved country. I think one area to focus and nurture once again is the moral fiber,specially among youth, to regain respect,trust and equality among ourselves. Adjusting the mental pattern to this present time of global unity might give each one a realization …again… to be true to oneself so as not to be false to anyone. Actually marami sa atin ang mayroon na nun. Huwag lamang tatabunan nang false pride o kalilimutan sundin lagi ,ang ating personal guide at teacher na si “konsensya”.

Sila po, ano ang inyong opinyon o suhestion kaya? (love you all…kabayan at kapatid)

reon

08-29-2005, 07:13 PM

hello Stacie Fil. pinagsama ko ang thread ninyo ni Paul, pasensiya na. halos pareho kasi kayo ng topic at halos sabay pa, at dahil nauna ang thread ni Paul, sinama ko na lang sa kanya para isa na lang ang diskusyon.

maganda yang topic kung paano “baguhin” ang pinas, gusto ko rin yan (at marami rin akong strong opinions tungkol dito). kaso mahirap yata (understatement). kaya ako, ang objective ko sa buhay ay simple lamang: maging isang mabuting resident sa japan (hangga’t maaari), matutunan ng husto ang kultura ng mga hapon (sipag at disiplina), magpadala ng konte sa pilipinas, at mag-contribute sa timog forum pag may oras. :smiley:

hahayaan ko na lang ang mga politicians sa atin na magpasya kung paano bigyan ng solusyon ang mga problema ng pilipinas.

Stacie Fil

08-30-2005, 12:07 AM

hello Stacie Fil. pinagsama ko ang thread ninyo ni Paul, pasensiya na. halos pareho kasi kayo ng topic at halos sabay pa, at dahil nauna ang thread ni Paul, sinama ko na lang sa kanya para isa na lang ang diskusyon.

OK lang po Mr Reon, walang kaso. Actually nag aalangan pa nga akong mag post. Nagkataon lang na libre ako nang konti ngayon at naglilikot nang konti ang isip and nakita ko rin ang request about solutions. Try po lang ba.Also I want to take this chance to ask apology to TF. When I registered then, hindi ko napuna yung trial area at para sa newbie.Pero binasa ko naman po yung guidelines.Kaso I think naliligaw/nagkakamali pa rin ako kung minsan.:slight_smile:

sam

08-30-2005, 09:58 PM

I understand the dilemma you are all into right now. You might even get depress every time you think of these socio-political problems. It can breed not only a sadness in the life of a simple man but even hostility. We get even angrier when they decide to raise our taxes and then we fear for ourselves, don’t we?

Before responding with some ‘sensible solutions’, I propose that we should go back to the basics and see the roots of these problems. It does not require any desperate mental gymnastics. If you have read the thread “The Philippines and its Mocked Democracy and Christianity” then you know what I mean. I remember saying in that article that if we’re going to change our culture we’re going to change it from the inside out.

11 years before I was born , Bob Dylan proclaimed the answer to man’s problems was “Blowin’ In The Wind.” Then there’s the Rolling Stone song (“I Can’t Get /No/ Satisfaction”) that reflects a realization of one’s pursuit to find satisfaction through worldly means is merely “vanity of vanities” (Ecclesiastes 12:8). The solution to man’s difficulties is not merely blowin’ in the wind. We should realize that we are hopeless and we need a Savior.

andres

08-31-2005, 01:05 AM

This could be an interesting thread.

But I won’t attempt to propose any direct “solutions” for now.

At the risk of sounding redundant, I think that before we can propose any solutions, we should properly define what the problems are. Sure, marami nang nagsulat tungkol sa mga problema ng Pilipinas. Pero, karamihan nito ay mga symptomas lamang ng problema; halimbawa: corruption, brain drain, traffic situation, etc: mga symptomas lahat yan.

Isa pa, madalas sa mga ganitong discussions malimit na ikumpara ang pilipinas, bilang third world country, sa mga bansang tulad ng US o Japan. This, I think, is a very bad habit among Filipinos. Not only is it totally unproductive, but it only leads to us being overwhelmed by the differences between us.
And then we become hopeless!

A far more logical approach is to compare ourselves with countries in the same league, (namely, other developing Asian countries); consider what they’re doing to solve their problems (which are mostly identical to ours), consider what we are currently doing, and see what we can learn from their experiences.
Di ba?

Again, I want to stress that a proper perspective is very important. Our country is poor; this is certainly true. But how poor, exactly? If we look at some numbers, such as GDP per capita (= the value of all goods and services produced in the economy divided by the population), we find the following:

Pilipinas: $5,000
Above us we have of course Japan (29,400), Malaysia (9,700), Thailand (8,100), China (5,600), etc.

But below us we have Sri Lanka (4K), Indonesia (3.5K), India (3.1), Vietnam (2.7), Pakistan (2.2), Bangladesh (2), Cambodia (2), Laos (1.9), Mongolia (1.9), Burma (1.7), N. Korea (1.7), Nepal (1.5), etc. (these are the 2004 estimates taken from the CIA World Factbook (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html))

I guess my point is that even though no, our situation is certainly not great, neither are we at the bottom of the heap. The other point is that we should realize that we should stop comparing the Philippines to the US for example but rather focus on more similar countries.

One very useful way of solving a difficult problem is to visualize the solution. In other words, what would a “fixed” Philippines look like?

If we did things right, where would be 5, 10 years from now?

Well, that’s all for now; kailangan ko nang matulog.
:wave: :sleep:

makulit

08-31-2005, 03:40 AM

Mahirap pag-isipan ng solusyon ang problema sa bansa natin. Never mind the politicians. Nanininawala ako na bago umunlad and bansa natin, kailangan magbago ang bawat Pilipino. Baguhin ang masasamang ugali at palitan ang mga nakagawian na.

  1. Halos lahat ng mga pilipino na may anak sa abroad o tinatawag na OFW, hindi na nagpupursige sa buhay. Naghihintay na lang ng buwanang padala mula sa mga anak nila. Pati mga kapatid, hindi na rin ginusto na tumayo sa sariling paa, kasi si ate o si kuya nasa abroad naman. Bahala na sya sa akin.

  2. Ang ugaling Bahala na … pakiusap lang. Tanggalin ang ugaling ‘bahala na’. Wala kang kakainin bukas ng umaga ‘bahala na’ ang sasabihin mo. KUng mahal mo ang sarili mo, kung mahal mo ang pamilya mo. Magtatatrabaho ka at pipilitin mo na araw-araw may sapat na pagkain sa hapag kainan mo.

  3. Baguhin ang pag-iisip na paglaki ng mga anak ko, sila ang bahalang sumuporta sa akin. Dapat habang bata pa at malakas, magipon para sa kinabukasan. Ang mga nakatatanda dapat laging maging magandang ehemplo. Paano magpupursige ang mga anak kung yung tatay hindi nagtatrabaho at umaasa sa sustento ng anak.

  4. Alisin ang ugali na makasarili. Laging iniisip kung ano ang pwedeng makuha at ano pa ang pwedeng makuha sa isang tao. Tanggalin din yung ugali na gusto laging magpalibre.

  5. Alisin din ang pagiging mayabang, sa lahat ang nakakainis yung nagyayabang. Lalo na yung mga magulang sa PIlipinas na ang anak ay nasa abroad, sus, kung magyabang at ipinagmamalaki pa ang sustentado sila ng anak nila. Nakakahiya. Isang magulang, umaasa sa anak. Nakakahiya talaga. Hindi man lang ma-insecure sa sarili kasi walang sariling source of income.

  6. At kapag bumisita ang anak na nasa abroad sana lang hindi yung bumibisita lagi ang nagbabayad ng lahat. Ikaw na nga ang bisita, ikaw pa ang gumagastos. Hindi ko pa yata naranasan na mag-dinner or mag-lunch outside without paying the bills :smiley:

Malamang sabihin nyo masakit akong magsalita. Magbigay ako ng example sa inyo. Ang asawa ko po ay Indian. I got a first hand experience of their culture. And I really love it. In fact, I would prefer to settle in India than in Philippines.

My inlaws never ask for support. Never asked for anything at all. Secondly, whenever we go to India, whoever we meet for dinner or lunch at a restaurant, the elderly’s are the ones who pays the bill. Even if you make an offer, they will say No.

Last time I went to India, I had 2000 rupees in my pocket (that’s around 2300 pesos). Would you believe na hindi nabawasan yon kahit isang Rupee? I always went out with my mother in law for shopping and she always pays for whatever I buy. I went back to Japan with 70kgs of luggages, lahat ng dala ko from India bigay lahat ng mother in law ko.

Ang pangarap ko … isang mataguyod na pilipinas 20 years mula ngayon.
Matapos sa generation ko ang nakaugalian na sa pamilya ko na pag matanda ka na ay ikaw naman ang susuporta sa magulang. Ayokong dumating ang panahon na maging pabigat ako sa anak ko pagtanda ko. At sana hindi maranasan ng anak ko ang hirap na naranasan ko while growing up.

docomo

09-01-2005, 11:11 PM

Seriously, why don’t we discuss solutions…feasible solutions…to the problems facing our nation? Two heads are better than one what more with 402 (as of this post)? Propose a solution to a problem, it can be general or it can be specific (specific is better though ;)) then let’s discuss about it. Who knows, maybe we can come up with some solutions (no matter how small they may be) that can be implemented back home and contribute to the development of our country.

This might seem to be veering away from the objectives of TF but since a lot of our members are already keen on discussing about these problems, might as well put them to good use and work on something that may prove worthwhile for our country, if not now then maybe in the future.

I’m not good at expressing my thoughts but I hope you got the message.

Here’s my two cents again(but i’m not imposing this view on anyone)

… Why not help “save jobs” to reduce poverty by BUYING only products manufactured in the Philippines. I am just simply saying that filipinos should buy products made in the Philippine-based factories that are employing filipino workers.

“TANGKILIKIN ANG SARILING ATIN” :slight_smile:

adechan

09-03-2005, 10:24 PM

to find the solution is determine and analyze first what are the problems and trace down the roots

and to be able not be discourage, focus on finding out the solutions and not on the problem, not finding faults and blaming the w’s (why ,when, where, who, what)

:wink:

ganda_girl89

09-03-2005, 11:01 PM

Mahirap pag-isipan ng solusyon ang problema sa bansa natin. Never mind the politicians. Nanininawala ako na bago umunlad and bansa natin, kailangan magbago ang bawat Pilipino. Baguhin ang masasamang ugali at palitan ang mga nakagawian na.

  1. Halos lahat ng mga pilipino na may anak sa abroad o tinatawag na OFW, hindi na nagpupursige sa buhay. Naghihintay na lang ng buwanang padala mula sa mga anak nila. Pati mga kapatid, hindi na rin ginusto na tumayo sa sariling paa, kasi si ate o si kuya nasa abroad naman. Bahala na sya sa akin.

  2. Ang ugaling Bahala na … pakiusap lang. Tanggalin ang ugaling ‘bahala na’. Wala kang kakainin bukas ng umaga ‘bahala na’ ang sasabihin mo. KUng mahal mo ang sarili mo, kung mahal mo ang pamilya mo. Magtatatrabaho ka at pipilitin mo na araw-araw may sapat na pagkain sa hapag kainan mo.

  3. Baguhin ang pag-iisip na paglaki ng mga anak ko, sila ang bahalang sumuporta sa akin. Dapat habang bata pa at malakas, magipon para sa kinabukasan. Ang mga nakatatanda dapat laging maging magandang ehemplo. Paano magpupursige ang mga anak kung yung tatay hindi nagtatrabaho at umaasa sa sustento ng anak.

  4. Alisin ang ugali na makasarili. Laging iniisip kung ano ang pwedeng makuha at ano pa ang pwedeng makuha sa isang tao. Tanggalin din yung ugali na gusto laging magpalibre.

  5. Alisin din ang pagiging mayabang, sa lahat ang nakakainis yung nagyayabang. Lalo na yung mga magulang sa PIlipinas na ang anak ay nasa abroad, sus, kung magyabang at ipinagmamalaki pa ang sustentado sila ng anak nila. Nakakahiya. Isang magulang, umaasa sa anak. Nakakahiya talaga. Hindi man lang ma-insecure sa sarili kasi walang sariling source of income.

  6. At kapag bumisita ang anak na nasa abroad sana lang hindi yung bumibisita lagi ang nagbabayad ng lahat. Ikaw na nga ang bisita, ikaw pa ang gumagastos. Hindi ko pa yata naranasan na mag-dinner or mag-lunch outside without paying the bills :smiley:

Malamang sabihin nyo masakit akong magsalita. Magbigay ako ng example sa inyo. Ang asawa ko po ay Indian. I got a first hand experience of their culture. And I really love it. In fact, I would prefer to settle in India than in Philippines.

My inlaws never ask for support. Never asked for anything at all. Secondly, whenever we go to India, whoever we meet for dinner or lunch at a restaurant, the elderly’s are the ones who pays the bill. Even if you make an offer, they will say No.

Last time I went to India, I had 2000 rupees in my pocket (that’s around 2300 pesos). Would you believe na hindi nabawasan yon kahit isang Rupee? I always went out with my mother in law for shopping and she always pays for whatever I buy. I went back to Japan with 70kgs of luggages, lahat ng dala ko from India bigay lahat ng mother in law ko.

Ang pangarap ko … isang mataguyod na pilipinas 20 years mula ngayon.
Matapos sa generation ko ang nakaugalian na sa pamilya ko na pag matanda ka na ay ikaw naman ang susuporta sa magulang. Ayokong dumating ang panahon na maging pabigat ako sa anak ko pagtanda ko. At sana hindi maranasan ng anak ko ang hirap na naranasan ko while growing up.

hi makulit,how are you?

baka naman maykaya lang ang pamilya ng napangasawa mo kaya kayang-kaya kang padalhan ng 70kg na pabitbit at di nagalaw ang dala mong pera.

sinabi mo yung 1 to 6 as masamang ugali ng mga filipinos na factor sa di natin pag unlad.according sa kwento mo sa visit nyo sa india,yung karamihan dyan ay di mo nakita sa india.bakit kaya mas below sila kesa sa pilipinas according sa CIA factbook?
if yung karamihan sa 6 na yan ay di gawain ng mga indian,dapat nasa itaas natin sila— kung yung 6 na yan ay mabisang paraan para umunlad tayo… maybe yung pagiging sobrang galante nmn ng mga magulang doon ang nagpapabagsak sa GDP nila—worse than our GDP.

makulit

09-04-2005, 09:31 AM

hi makulit,how are you?

baka naman maykaya lang ang pamilya ng napangasawa mo kaya kayang-kaya kang padalhan ng 70kg na pabitbit at di nagalaw ang dala mong pera.

sinabi mo yung 1 to 6 as masamang ugali ng mga filipinos na factor sa di natin pag unlad.according sa kwento mo sa visit nyo sa india,yung karamihan dyan ay di mo nakita sa india.bakit kaya mas below sila kesa sa pilipinas according sa CIA factbook?
if yung karamihan sa 6 na yan ay di gawain ng mga indian,dapat nasa itaas natin sila— kung yung 6 na yan ay mabisang paraan para umunlad tayo… maybe yung pagiging sobrang galante nmn ng mga magulang doon ang nagpapabagsak sa GDP nila—worse than our GDP.

Hi ganda_girl89. Palagay ko tinignan mo kasi GDP Per Capita. Ang per capita kasi, gross domestic product divided by number of average population. Kung titignan mo sa ranking ng GDP lang, No 4 ang rangking ng India. Since you look on per capita, mas mababa talaga sya sa pilipinas kasi 1.08 billion ang population ng india compared to that of Philippines na 87.8 million. Now, cguro alam mo na kung bakit bumabagsak ang GDP. Ito ay dahil sa number of population at hindi dahil sa galante ang parents.

Stacie Fil

09-21-2005, 12:52 AM

I understand the dilemma you are all into right now. You might even get depress every time you think of these socio-political problems. It can breed not only a sadness in the life of a simple man but even hostility. We get even angrier when they decide to raise our taxes and then we fear for ourselves, don’t we?

we should go back to the basics and see the roots of these problems. I remember saying in that article that if we’re going to change our culture we’re going to change it from the inside out.

11 years before I was born , Bob Dylan proclaimed the answer to man’s problems was “Blowin’ In The Wind.” Then there’s the Rolling Stone song (“I Can’t Get /No/ Satisfaction”) that reflects a realization of one’s pursuit to find satisfaction through worldly means is merely “vanity of vanities” (Ecclesiastes 12:8). The solution to man’s difficulties is not merely blowin’ in the wind. We should realize that we are hopeless and we need a Savior.

Cant help myself to come back to this topic. Whenever I think of Phil and the constant thought that sooner or later I wish to come back again to its bossoom. Its true medyo nakakalungkot isipin. Even if I cant do anything now, I still hope to receive more views and insight on how we can give our share in rebuilding our country. Maybe we are not part of the problem, pero, di ba lalo’t higit na masaya to be part of its solution. Besides kuru-kuro lang naman, parang usapang barbero. Malay natin may isang taga TF ang ma-inspire diyan and be the seed/small flame to begin the transition. Matagal na rin naman nasa ibaba ang Pinas. Hope lang naman na ang next direction is to rise up.

One reason I propose about the flag is because, its the only one then I could think nearest to our “idealism” .(But primarily just to say something and continue thread…honest, not really main sol’n)) Whether we are aware or not, I find some similarities to our opinion. just like most of the suggestion toward change. All should begin in one self. Sabi ni Sam, “change from inside out.” And thats very true I think. Sorry if I dont agree on one part na we are hopeless(no offense- habang may buhay raw may pag-asa…pampalakas nang loob:D ). Though I agree we need a savior. And that could mean anyone or everyone being part of the solution. Gaya nang lifesaver sa swimming pool. i.e. May bata tumalon sa malalim na part nang pool. Too late to realise, mali pala ang decision/nagawa niya. A lifesaver or anyone to take care of that problem, simply take the child to safe side or off the water is the savior. Any child who takes care of the family burden/problem ,most specially in difficult situation is its savior.

Huwag tayong masiraan nang loob kaibigan, kahit na sobra( X 10~) mahirap. Wala naman daw madali. Akin lang eh, kung may masisimulan,tumatakb o ang panahon, may kaunting mari-rialise. Ang effort/energy ay di nawawala,di nasasayang, nababago lang nang form.:rolleyes:

see the roots = Heto raw ang prime reason kaya lumabas nang Pinas si Rizal. To find our true identity. Cover or secondary reason na lang ang pag aaral and become a doctor.

docomo

09-21-2005, 01:28 PM

Whatever solutions/proposal ,lets just hope this one works for the economy … (but) until we learn to discipline ourselves will our basic needs improve :open_mouth:

adechan

09-21-2005, 07:51 PM

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Cant help myself to come back to this topic. Whenever I think of Phil and the constant thought that sooner or later I wish to come back again to its bossoom. Its true medyo nakakalungkot isipin. Even if I cant do anything now, I still hope to receive more views and insight on how we can give our share in rebuilding our country. Maybe we are not part of the problem, pero, di ba lalo’t higit na masaya to be part of its solution. Besides kuru-kuro lang naman, parang usapang barbero. Malay natin may isang taga TF ang ma-inspire diyan and be the seed/small flame to begin the transition. Matagal na rin naman nasa ibaba ang Pinas. Hope lang naman na ang next direction is to rise up.

Problem:
The politic system in Philippines sucks.
Poverty, and almost everyone is a victim and contains the poverty traits of kanya-kanya behavior, and ako muna behavior.

Possible Solution:
A private group of dedicated individuals performing the related duties of the government officials.

A private group dedicated for a particular purposes helping the advancement of culture and economy, like tourism, education, industry, manpower, charity, and etc.

If there is a cure to cancer, give it to our government and let our land Philippines heal.

In my Christian belief … this passage is an overview
Ephesians 6:12, “For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world, and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms.”

Stacie Fil

09-21-2005, 10:57 PM

Hi Adechan,

This part you wrote makes me smile “If there is a cure to cancer, give it to our government and let our land Philippines heal.”

Siguro nga tama ka. We have a sick goverment. The govermment itself needs a total change and not a simple makeover. We really need good and strong NGO’s to assist the people. Sana hindi basta ningas kugon at hindi mapasok nang kahit na sino na may political aspiration. I had seen some good NGO’s. Kaso lang sa Pinas, pinapasok at ginagamit para magka-pangalan at connection,then pumapasok sa pulitika.

pcbuildersam

09-22-2005, 08:54 AM

Hello dear folks,good day,
Yeah ,yeah ,P.I.'s got problems.Tons and tons of problems. Any place on planet earth na walang problema? Japan? Tons of it! Good 'ol US of A? Plenty!Pinas? Taksan,taksan…Now here…my main man.
Rants ,rants rants…that is all we hear from Noypis.Solutions ?Plenty. Capability?Big yes! Willingness? A slap in the face,NO!
That’s it. Plain and simple.The problem of Pinas is the TAO itself. WE are the problem.It is you and I.Quit finger pointing ,roll up our sleeves and let us buckle down to work.And I mean work.
Masyado tayong maraming matalinong tao.Don’t you know that?From Dadong Macapagal,Apo lakay Marcos,Tandang Ramos,Aging Tita Cory and now bulingit GMA.Man,these are people that possess the talino comparable if not better than the great men of yesteryears …Einstein,Edison, Kennedy,Gandhi,Arist otle,Plato,so on so forth.Pero ano nangyari o nangyayari?Still the famous “sick man of Asia”.Man o man!
Kennedy ,once eloquently said " ask not what your country can do for you ,but what you can do for your country".Booooom! That’s it . And I mean that"s the big IT!
Good day!:cool:

ichiban

09-23-2005, 06:20 PM

I like this thread…Honest, i really like this.
I have been with sunstar online forum for more than a year and most of us who are based abroad has hte same concern. How to help our country. Many bright contributors can not offer solutions on how to change our government, yet the desire is still there. I also would like to do something to give back to our motherland, something that will impact. In the online discussions that ensued, there is really no small solutions to our countrys problems but still we can do our part. Di ba?

ichiban

09-23-2005, 06:30 PM

The Philippines has a ton of problems, but if we look at it from a global perspective, our problems are not unique. Corruption, crime, national dis-unity, dis-illusioned masses… these problems plague first-world countries as well. Big difference is, prosperous countries have a deeper understanding of how ‘money works’, and how to play the game on a global scale. I know it sounds simplistic, but that is the basic difference between us and any First-world country. Pollution? can be solved by installing re-cyling centers and incenerators then paying garbage collectors to gather trash. Traffic? better public transportation system. Crime? Hire and train better policemen. Corruption? Assemble a group of highly paid hotshot lawyers to act as watchdogs against politicians who abuse power, and provide them with high class security and pay them well. Money wont solve all our problems, but Im sure all of our suggested solutions will require money to implement. The common thinking Filipinos have about money is that it is equal to work, hence, to get money you have to work. So you work 8hrs or so a day, 5 times a week, then get a paycheck, buy food, save a little, work some more. This is, I think the most honorable way to earn a living. Problem is, not everybody thinks like this. Take banks for instance, ever wonder how banks make millions in a day? if work = money then it would mean that there should be at least a hundred thousand workers inside the bank making money. Where does it come from? Banks earn primarily from investments and lending. These are activities that also require a little bit of work, but generate an insane amount of money. I think that solutions to our country’s problems will come from this angle. Dapat makaisip tayo ng paraan kung pano masalin ang pera ng economiya ng mundo pa paloob sa ating economiya… post ko pag nakaisip na ko ng paraan :D.

nemoy, i like your post…I will wait for your much thought of solution to the problem ng pinas neh?

adechan

09-23-2005, 09:44 PM

Hi Adechan,

This part you wrote makes me smile “If there is a cure to cancer, give it to our government and let our land Philippines heal.”

Siguro nga tama ka. We have a sick goverment. The govermment itself needs a total change and not a simple makeover. We really need good and strong NGO’s to assist the people. Sana hindi basta ningas kugon at hindi mapasok nang kahit na sino na may political aspiration. I had seen some good NGO’s. Kaso lang sa Pinas, pinapasok at ginagamit para magka-pangalan at connection,then pumapasok sa pulitika.

other way of seeing ningas kugon … they burn up theirselves … to keep the fire burning kailangan nang gatong to keep the fire going

Kadalasan dyan ay iyong mga full voluntary NGO work. To be an active NGO is very draining in most cases … sometimes you have to bring out the last penny you have just to finished the started projects, with result or no result. Probably some of them found their remaining effort and their hopes contradicts, and ending up quitting.

pag pinasukan na o nahaluan na nang politics? cancer ay nakakahawa … better stay away from politics

Kailangan nang NGO na dedicated not to join any politics, and need a program not only to help, but to help their members and supporters, too, like producing an income for them, in order for them not to be kurakot, or abunado, kailangan din kasi nang gasolina, at hindi lang puro tiring voluntary works. These NGO workers also need to have a living especially the poor ones.

adechan

09-23-2005, 10:00 PM

I like this thread…Honest, i really like this.
I have been with sunstar online forum for more than a year and most of us who are based abroad has hte same concern. How to help our country. Many bright contributors can not offer solutions on how to change our government, yet the desire is still there. I also would like to do something to give back to our motherland, something that will impact. In the online discussions that ensued, there is really no small solutions to our countrys problems but still we can do our part. Di ba?

i like this thread too.

still hoping

NemoySpruce

09-24-2005, 12:25 PM

nemoy, i like your post…I will wait for your much thought of solution to the problem ng pinas neh?

Thanks ichiban, still dont have a solution though. I also like this thread a lot. I wish we could get economic, political and socio experts on board. it would make it 10 times more interesting and productive.

Stacie Fil

09-25-2005, 11:06 PM

When I was in highschool, I over heard some story from some of our elders telling why we stop progressing ang expected to become more poorer… in the long run. Im not really very sure how true is this but let me share anyway. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

The story goes that because we had lots of loan in the world bank, we are bounded to follow some regulations. The biggest burden to hamper our progress is that we are not permitted to create our own smelter, specially to build our own machineries. Due to this our own metal raw materials has to be brought and process in Japan/out of the country. When it comes back as wrought iron, is is almost many times expensive. We have a blooming mill to only convert it to steel bars/sheets. Due to this,we have to pay more to construct and develop our industries. Since we do not make machineries, we do not have even the small type engine to be used for small works or agricultural purposes. Thats why we are flooded with talented/educated/professional people where no job or things to do. No engine, all works are slow and production is incompetitive. No big production,nothing to use in local needs and nothing to give to outside market. Philippine money are all going away out ,including those in churches for foreign donation/support and nothing in the other hand is coming in or coming back. There’s no reason for our currency to increase its value or foriegn necessity in world trade.(We only trade basic items/raw materials or nothing at all). Only recently we got the manpower trade.(No other choice…kapit sa patalim) The direction of Phil peso is only to devaluate.

I also don’t remember clear. I think this come from another Asian country diplomat( Korean or Taiwan I guess) who said(mocked actually Phil Economic Leaders) that the problem of Phil is its obedience to WB. He said most of our 3rd World Asian counterparts had the same agreement then with WB due to debt. They all agree and said yes. But he said that thier leaders are good. They already said yes, it doesnt mean they also had to follow to the point of ruining their own. So they just let away their local businessmen to build/create stuff like cars,electronics,tex tile machines, copy products(bec even Japs only copy all their trade system anyway, they said)

So I guess we have to first make our own industries to supply and support our country needs, plus lot of surplus to trade outside. Not to get billions of cars,old surplus engines/parts outside, but make our own from scratch. We have all knowledges and skills available.

tech_U

09-28-2005, 03:21 PM

I’d like to share my views on this thread re Solutions;
I’m living in the Philippines right now, my home and my country.
Facts:
Its true mahirap ang buhay dito ngayon, lalo na ang pera.
Even the employed from the private/govt sectors are faced with the same problems such as rising cost of electricity, fuel, food commodities etc…
Businesses continue to face new challenges.
What we can do?
The Filipino is very versatile, I still beleive that!
Pero iba na ang panahon ngayon, unlike 5, 10 or 20 years ago, ngayon puro hi-tech na at me globalization pa kaya what we should do is to be competitive to survive.
We should encourage everyone to be entrepreneurial.
Lets promote livelihood opportunities to everyone, para lahat me chance kumita ng pera.
Lets focus on business technology and livelihood. Ang dami dito sa atin.
Unfortunately, not all Filipinos have access to the computer and internet.
But we can start with ourselves, with our families and friends. We can do it.
Faith can move mountains…:slight_smile:

Another thing is, we need a lifestyle check, be practical :wink: we dont need a cannon to get rid of a fly.

Cheers :slight_smile:

piNkAhOLiC

10-02-2005, 08:24 AM

I have read a lot of discussions on the 'net regarding the problems facing the Philippines, be it political, economical, social, moral, or whatever someone with access to the internet deems as a problem of our country. And frankly, most of these focus on just that…problems. Our beloved Timog Forum has not been spared from this, what with all the discussions about poverty, population explosion, the OFW’s plight, etc. Don’t you find all the negativity depressing? It’s a good thing though, that there are quite a few bright minds here in TF (me, not included) who present sensible solutions to these problems. But I think we could do better.

Sure it’s easy to say the Filipinos should be more responsible, the politicians should stop being corrupt, that we should keep united, that we should always pray. But are these really solutions to our problems? How should the Filipinos be responsible? How should we stop the politicians from stealing the wealth of our nation? How should we unite our brethren, especially since we ourselves are part of those who have fled our country to look for greener pastures? Can prayer really solve our problems?

The problems being faced by the Philippines are complicated in nature, our problems with the economy are tightly intertwined with the problems in politics and the social (mis)behavior of our people. There is no ultimate solution short of dropping an atomic bomb over Manila and hoping that the survivors rebuild our country the right way. Hmmm…now that’s a thought (any nuclear scientists in our midst?)

Seriously, why don’t we discuss solutions…feasible solutions…to the problems facing our nation? Two heads are better than one what more with 402 (as of this post)? Propose a solution to a problem, it can be general or it can be specific (specific is better though ;)) then let’s discuss about it. Who knows, maybe we can come up with some solutions (no matter how small they may be) that can be implemented back home and contribute to the development of our country.

This might seem to be veering away from the objectives of TF but since a lot of our members are already keen on discussing about these problems, might as well put them to good use and work on something that may prove worthwhile for our country, if not now then maybe in the future.

I’m not good at expressing my thoughts but I hope you got the message.

Very interesting topic Sir. :slight_smile: Whats happening to our country is really depressing… Puro failures,corruptions ,negative plights of OFW’s etc … Plus eto pang government! Nakakapagod nang pakinggan…

Ang tanong nga ng marami, May pag-asa paba ang Pilipinas? :confused:

Ok, let me start with this theory. (Medyo mahaba post ko, pasensya na)
Countries that were colonized by Spain, subsequently converted to a Catholic/Christian nation, have one thing in common. Poverty. Theology/religion classes have always taught us to put our trust in the Lord in everything we do in life. And so like blind soldiers, we followed. This mind set of putting everything up to the Lord could very well be one of the reasons why the Philippines still continues to falter. Why? If life was tough and nothing was working out, instead of striving harder to make things better…what were we taught to say instead…“BAHALA NA ANG DIYOS.” And even if we all know the saying do everything and leave the rest up to God…does this really happen? Ang bilis natin mawalan ng pag-asa. Then we attribute it to “God’s Will”…why is that? Instead of analyzing where in our lives we’re lacking, where we can get better, what we can do about it…we instead leave everything up to the Church…let that rule and determine our lives? It hampers us instead of helping us. Prayers and faith are important, I don’t dare deny that. But to have it be just the only way we live just doesn’t seem right. We need to do something for ourselves. Stop putting the blame on this and that and the corruption. It’s each and everyone of us Filipinos who contribute to the problem. :rolleyes:

Pero lam nyo,naisip ko lang ha, walang sino man, and nothing could really be hopeless. I think good education, better enterpreneurship skills, total overhauling of values, and right opportunities will give filipinos a chance to stand on its feet again. I would wonder why filipinos succeed in other countries but not in their own country? Siguro dapat mabago ang values ng mga Pinoy para umasenso ang bansa natin. Halos lahat kasi gustong yumaman and since feeling helpless na ang ibang mahihirap, they don’t even bother to take the first step which is to find a decent job or source of income just to be able to provide for the most basic needs. I don’t believe na walang trabahong available. Hindi lang naghahanap ang iba. Bakit yung iba, walang kamay, walang paa pero may hanapbuhay. Matatalino naman ang Pinoy eh, karamihan lang tamad…

Eto pang government natin, sobrang gulo! Sabi nga ng karamihan, it’s the President’s fault daw… Oo nga naman, who wouldn’t be blaming her anyway??? WHO WOULN’T BE BLAMING THE administration? Any president would be blamed diba? Whether that person be a MALE or a FEMALE; if they can’t initiate a POSITIVE change and instead divides the people into half, then the problem should be directed to these officials. Im not only taking about the PRESIDENT per se. Im talking about the government officials in totality.They are supposed to be the ONES serving the PEOPLE! Pero hindi ganun ang nangyayari. The Government is established as an institution that caters to everything that concerns the public. If any arm of this giant institution fails, it is but logical to blame the head. Isa lang masasabi ko, our system is way too f*cked. And the president made it a lot worse by twisting the truth and getting away with it. Who would be pleased? Everything around her is a mess! BEST SOLUTION FOR ME:
Call me mean but I really think The Philippines need an authoritarian style of government. (an authoritarian government restricts liberty, but allows freedom to reign beyond the enforced limits. Even the most draconian authoritarian government is bound by laws, against which its power can be checked.) Toomuch democracy is making the powerful and corrupt to gain more hold and power. The poor is buried way down…

Just my two cents! :slight_smile: Peace tayo ha! haba na post ko pasensya napo!:cool:

I’ll leave you guys with a quote…from a little movie I think told a lot more truth than some Churches do these days: (Bruce Almighty, 2003):
God: People want me to do everything for them. What they don’t realize is that they have the power. You want to see a miracle? Be the miracle.

Stacie Fil

10-03-2005, 01:37 AM

Very interesting topic Sir. :slight_smile: Whats happening to our country is really depressing… Puro failures,corruptions ,negative plights of OFW’s etc … Plus eto pang government! Nakakapagod nang pakinggan…

I like this part…
. It’s each and everyone of us Filipinos who contribute to the problem. :rolleyes:

Just my two cents! :slight_smile: Peace tayo ha! haba na post ko pasensya napo!:cool:

I’ll leave you guys with a quote…from a little movie I think told a lot more truth than some Churches do these days: (Bruce Almighty, 2003):
God: People want me to do everything for them. What they don’t realize is that they have the power. You want to see a miracle? Be the miracle.

Just thinking,hindi kaya kay ate Guy(Nora) niya napulot yung idea na ito(or nung writer). Iningles lang. “Walang himala. Nasasainyo ang himala”:slight_smile: :biglaugh:

Isa sa mga bagay na hope ko ring mabago, lalo na sa mas mabilis na panahon eh yung mga writer,producer, director,the whole Phil media sector na ibahin nang konte ang tema nang mga panoorin sa bansa. Sila ang best educator at pinakamabilis mag transfer nang changes sa bayan.Kung ano ang takbo at pananaw nang karaniwan at karamihan ,lalot kabataan,malaking porsyento noon ay impluwensya nang TV at movie media.
Ilan sa mga bagay na napansin ko sa Japan ay maingat na TV media presentation. Kahit kriminal/nagkamali ay may malaking chance na makapagbago agad. Hindi mo basta basta makikita sa TV ang mukha nang tao/suspect. Kapag ang TV personalities ay nagkamali, kahit maliit na bagay lang. Tulad halimbawa nang wrong parking, tanggal agad siya sa limelight. Lalo na kung ang role niya ay para sa palabas nang mga bata. Sila kasi ang karaniwang tinutularan/role model nang karaniwang viewer. Ang mga celebrities or comedian ay laging tested ang patience or character response sa harap nang kamera. Wholesome at healthy ang laging mga topic sa talk shows.

piNkAhOLiC

10-03-2005, 11:41 PM

Just thinking,hindi kaya kay ate Guy(Nora) niya napulot yung idea na ito(or nung writer). Iningles lang. “Walang himala. Nasasainyo ang himala”:slight_smile: :biglaugh:

OT: FYI, it’s from the movie Bruce Almighty (2003) :cool:

Stacie Fil

10-04-2005, 11:51 PM

OT: FYI, it’s from the movie Bruce Almighty (2003) :cool:

:smiley: Sorry piNkahOLic, meant no offense. Of course you’re right on your quote from Bruce Almighty movie. It was just a thought that there might be a possibility dahil ahead for many years yung movie ni Ate Guy.But it doesnt matter bec. I was just kidding then when I wrote that.

Talking about movie, isa rin sa nabanggit mo na “Bahala na ang Diyos” mentality, ay siya ring concept na madalas makita natin sa mga palabas(at sa paligid na rin dahil nakagawian na). Which was taught to us or learned as part of our christian faith. Kung sana rin eh, pinapakita rin nila ang isa pang idea tulad nang, " Carry your own cross" and in the other hand may dagdag na “Diyos, akong bahala sa iyo”. I mean His always carrying/ we’re giving to Him all the load as what was taught to us. Now being mature/responsible children ika nga. We can also do and say, "Let me help you/take off some of your X-tra load. Sagot ko na yung isang bagay/problemang yon. Mas maganda di ba?Mababawasan yung ugaling umaasa at laging nakaturo sa iba/govt para manisi. Mababawasan unti-unti ang maraming problema.

piNkAhOLiC

10-06-2005, 01:02 AM

Got this from a friend. Forwarded on my email. Share ko lang. :slight_smile:

“Twelve (12) Little Things Every Filipino Can Do To Help Our Country,”
by Alexander Ledesma Lacson

A simple enumeration of these “twelve little things” will not do justice to the work of Alex. You’ve got to read the whole text, but I shall try to compress a few lines for some of the items mentioned… With reactions and comments ko per #:

  1. Follow traffic rules – Why is that the most important? The answer is simple. Traffic rules are the simplest of our laws. If we learn to follow them, it will be the lowest form of national discipline that we can develop. Since it is totally without monetary cost, it should be easy for us to comply with, and therefore should provide a good start.

traffic light or the traffic enforcerS? Kasi minsan doble doble. may traffic light tapos may traffic enforcer. naka-green ang traffic light tapos magsignal yun traffic enforner na stop. ano ba tlga? sana if may traffic light, alisin na traffic enforcer. sayang pera.

  1. Whenever you buy or pay for anything, always ask for an official receipt. – If a seller does not issue an official receipt when you buy a product, the seller may or may not remit the tax to the government. Without an O.R., there is no record of the sale transaction, and the tax that you paid may not be remitted to the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

not applicable sa 168, 22ba, quiapo, gh. :lol:

  1. Do not buy smuggled goods. Buy local, buy Filipino. – It may not be good economics to buy 100 percent local products.What I suggest is for us to take a “50-50” buying attitude. This means that we must develop the attitude of using 50 percent of our budget for local products and the other 50 percent for imported choices.

pag snacks and candies, i prefer local, mas masarap siya. and instant noodles din natin sarap din.

  1. When you talk to others, especially foreigners,speak positively of our race and our country – this is best addressedto the rich and the middle class in our country, who have contact with the outside world.It is they who talk to, dine or deal with foreigners either here or abroad. It is what they say and do which creates impressions about us among foreigners.

i’m guilty of this… for me hirap gawin. but if they don’t ask me bout philippines, i don’t tell them anything bout it.

  1. Respect your traffic officer, policeman, soldier and other public servants – There is nothing like the power of respect. It makes a person proud. It makes one feel honorable. At the same time, courtesy to others is good manners. It is class and elegance and kindness. It is seeing the value and dignity in the other man. It is, in fact, a mark of a most profound education.

errrrr… hirap gawin if corrupt sila. i can only give respect to those who DESERVES RESPECT…

  1. Do not litter. Dispose your garbage properly. Segregate.
    Recycle.Conserve. – As Louis Armstrong says in his song: “I see trees of green, red roses, too, I see them bloom for me and you and I think to myself, what a wonderful world.”

i try not to litter sa streets.i put my candy wrappers sa bags or inside the car tapos tapunin pag dating sa bahay. we also use scratch paper sa bahay.

  1. Support your church. (or charitable/ civic organizations - :slight_smile:

What if you don’t go to church?

  1. During elections, do your solemn duty. – Honesty, more than a masteral or doctorate degree, is what gives credibility. And credibility is essential because it is a leader’s link to the people.It is what makes the people look to one direction,follow a common vision, and perform a uniform act. In short,credibility is what makes people follow the leader.

May credible na politician pa ba???

  1. Pay your employees well. – No exercise is better for the human heart than to reach down and lift someone else up. This truly defines a successful life. For success is the sum, not of our earthly possessions, but of how many times we have shown love and kindness to others.

n/a sakin :LOL:

  1. Pay your taxes. – In 2003, P83 billion was collected from individual income taxes. But 91 percent of this amount came from salaried workers from the government and private sector, people who had no choice since their income taxes were withheld mandatorily. Only P7 billion of the P83 billion came from businessmen and professionals like doctors, lawyers, accountants and architects,among others.

I do pay taxes.

  1. Adopt a scholar or adopt a poor child. – You can make a difference in the future of our country by making a difference in the world of children.

I wanna do this if stable na kami. Sa World Vision pde cguro mag-adopt… :slight_smile:

  1. Be a good parent. Teach your kids to follow the law and to love our country. – Today’s children will someday rule and lead this world. But whether they will be bad rulers or good leaders will depend largely on how we raise them today. Our future is in the hearts and minds of our children…

n/a pa rin…

Oh by the way, May gusto akong i-add…
13. Execute all erring/corrupt public officials - One strike and their out. They have no reason to exist. Period. :grrr:

NemoySpruce

10-10-2005, 02:39 PM

Eto may nabasa akong article, naisip ko lang na pede tong i-implement sa pinas to accelerate growth.

http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3554071

Broadband through power cables should be implemented in the entire Philippines. We should help develop this technology and make it cheap and affordable to all Filipinos. Pag nagawa natin to, hindi na natin pede gawing excuse na hiwahiwalay kasi islands natin kaya wala tayong unity. With this technology we will have free interaction of ideas across the country, and it would help consolidate our actions, and we can finally act as a country. ewan idea lang, ano po opinion nyo?

Stacie Fil

10-10-2005, 11:57 PM

Eto may nabasa akong article, naisip ko lang na pede tong i-implement sa pinas to accelerate growth.

http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3554071

Broadband through power cables should be implemented in the entire Philippines. We should help develop this technology and make it cheap and affordable to all Filipinos. Pag nagawa natin to, hindi na natin pede gawing excuse na hiwahiwalay kasi islands natin kaya wala tayong unity. With this technology we will have free interaction of ideas across the country, and it would help consolidate our actions, and we can finally act as a country. ewan idea lang, ano po opinion nyo?

Very nice tech info/idea NemoySpruce
I believe that the WWW or net is truely one big step in the future. One of the ways towards closeness or one world unity through equal transfer of knowledge. I think there are lot of good ideas such as the one you just presented.What plays in my mind now is; Ano or sino-sino kaya ang dapat na mga tao ang pwedeng humawak nang ganitong responsibility or knowledge (specially sa atin sa Pinas) at hindi maku-corrupt in the essence of serving public cause. Mayroon din naman tayong mga magagaling at tapat na kababayan. Sino at paano kaya sila mai-inform nitong mga bagay na ito. May alam po ba sila?

In my early stay here in Japan, I was amaze how well Japan has used some of those public speakers to organize or annouce basic and very important information to general public in each city. Lalo na yung sound to alert/ inform young children na padilim na or oras nang umuwi, or twelve o clock break na sa tanghali(in other farm places).

NemoySpruce

10-11-2005, 07:16 AM

Ano or sino-sino kaya ang dapat na mga tao ang pwedeng humawak nang ganitong responsibility or knowledge (specially sa atin sa Pinas) at hindi maku-corrupt in the essence of serving public cause. Mayroon din naman tayong mga magagaling at tapat na kababayan. Sino at paano kaya sila mai-inform nitong mga bagay na ito. May alam po ba sila?

Hindi pa po ako masyado familiar sa infrastructure na kailangan para ma-implement itong technology, pero sigurado Meralco kasama dito. May disadvantages din yung technology na to, nakaka interfere daw with radio-waves, pero Im not sure kung na ayos na nila, kasi inimeplement na nila ayon sa article. Ill be keeping close watch on this technology, and Ill do some research kung sino pede tanongin on how to implement it sa atin kung pwede. :confused:

sam

10-11-2005, 12:35 PM

kung gusto niyong alamin ang status ng High Speed PLC (power line cable) dito sa Japan check out www.plc-j.org. Status of regulation worldwide:
US,Germany, Spain, UK, France, China, Sinagpore-in use; Korea and Japan-reg status exist but not in use. So far in terms of usage status US palang ang in service both outdoor and indoor. The rest, in testing pa lang ( except for Spain ,Germany and UK) pati dito sa Japan. Kailangan pang ma solved yung electromagnetic leakage. I have lots to share re this trend and other practical solution like open system pero next time na lang. mamimigay pa ako ng tissue sa Akihabara, Jaane

City_rabbit

10-13-2005, 03:59 AM

Nice advise from the previous posts -

Yes, I agree- everything should start from us- the individual, then from our families to the society…

Buy Filipino,that is ideal - that would be nice but, sad to say, look at what most Filipinos are wearing - from head to toes… imported brands…

I think our country needs better roads, better transportation - we need trains- long time ago, there used to be trains leading to the north of Luzon…
imagine if our transportation were improved - everything would improve-
postal system, transport of food and commodities, businesses would improve…

If the roads and infrastructure- bridges, etc… were better- most islands would be “connected and people would be connected” - and be more united…

And of course- yes, better internet service…

Just a thought…

sam

10-13-2005, 02:21 PM

yes, we should always buy Filipino products. anyways, kahit saan ka naman tumingin ngayon puro made in China. kung China rin lang nakatatak sa bibilhin mo dito, save your money, and buy the same product back home. pansin nyo ba sa akihabara, lahat ng bandai at disney products, puro made in china. nakakawalang-gana.

good suggestions from the previous article. probably, kung masunod lang yung 12tenets na yun, kahit one step, we can move forward.

as for the bahala na ang Diyos, i dont see anything wrong with that, becasue that refers to the most hopeless and helpless, not just in material aspect. God hears the cries of those who are oppressed, abused, heartbroken,etal. kaya yung mga nang-aapi, lagot sila sa Diyos. Siya ang number one na kakampi ng mga api.

God is not the God of mediocrity. He is our King, and if we are His people, we are supposed to bring back to him the best in us, the best in our lives. kaya, hindi pwedeng sabiin na ang Diyos o ang pananampalatayang Kristyano ang dahilan ng kahirapan natin. Good thing He is also the King of mercy, kaya hindi mortal sin maging mediocre.

Many great civilization (not just one person, a family, or an administration, but an entire generation like rome, spain, even the ealier ones) actually met their ends, because they lose sight of God. anything apart from Him, is nothing.

gabby

10-18-2005, 01:53 AM

Nice advise from the previous posts -

Yes, I agree- everything should start from us- the individual, then from our families to the society…

Buy Filipino,that is ideal - that would be nice but, sad to say, look at what most Filipinos are wearing - from head to toes… imported brands…

I think our country needs better roads, better transportation - we need trains- long time ago, there used to be trains leading to the north of Luzon…
imagine if our transportation were improved - everything would improve-
postal system, transport of food and commodities, businesses would improve…

If the roads and infrastructure- bridges, etc… were better- most islands would be “connected and people would be connected” - and be more united…

And of course- yes, better internet service…

Just a thought…
Bench,penshoppe and Loade are made in China as well Heh he he. . . You should buy GAP clothes. I’ve got four or five GAP clothes that are made in the Philippines. Also my Abercrombie and Fitch boxers are made in the Philippines. You see, I am helping out the country in my own way.

City_rabbit

10-18-2005, 04:09 AM

Bench,penshoppe and Loade are made in China as well Heh he he. . . You should buy GAP clothes. I’ve got four or five GAP clothes that are made in the Philippines. Also my Abercrombie and Fitch boxers are made in the Philippines. You see, I am helping out the country in my own way.

That is good to know that you are helping our country by wearing imported brand boxers made in the Philippines… just kidding…
Made in the Philippines but are owned by American or other foreign companies…so, Gabby- you mean to say, you buy export over-runs in the Philippines just like me? Bought them in Greenhills too?
:rolleyes:

Pinay

10-26-2005, 03:39 PM

Ok, let me start with this theory. (Medyo mahaba post ko, pasensya na)
Countries that were colonized by Spain, subsequently converted to a Catholic/Christian nation, have one thing in common. Poverty. Theology/religion classes have always taught us to put our trust in the Lord in everything we do in life. And so like blind soldiers, we followed. This mind set of putting everything up to the Lord could very well be one of the reasons why the Philippines still continues to falter. Why? If life was tough and nothing was working out, instead of striving harder to make things better…what were we taught to say instead…“BAHALA NA ANG DIYOS.” And even if we all know the saying do everything and leave the rest up to God…does this really happen? Ang bilis natin mawalan ng pag-asa. Then we attribute it to “God’s Will”…why is that? Instead of analyzing where in our lives we’re lacking, where we can get better, what we can do about it…we instead leave everything up to the Church…let that rule and determine our lives? It hampers us instead of helping us. Prayers and faith are important, I don’t dare deny that. But to have it be just the only way we live just doesn’t seem right. We need to do something for ourselves. Stop putting the blame on this and that and the corruption. It’s each and everyone of us Filipinos who contribute to the problem. :rolleyes:

Pero lam nyo,naisip ko lang ha, walang sino man, and nothing could really be hopeless. I think good education, better enterpreneurship skills, total overhauling of values, and right opportunities will give filipinos a chance to stand on its feet again. I would wonder why filipinos succeed in other countries but not in their own country? Siguro dapat mabago ang values ng mga Pinoy para umasenso ang bansa natin. Halos lahat kasi gustong yumaman and since feeling helpless na ang ibang mahihirap, they don’t even bother to take the first step which is to find a decent job or source of income just to be able to provide for the most basic needs. I don’t believe na walang trabahong available. Hindi lang naghahanap ang iba. Bakit yung iba, walang kamay, walang paa pero may hanapbuhay. Matatalino naman ang Pinoy eh, karamihan lang tamad…

Call me mean but I really think The Philippines need an authoritarian style of government. (Toomuch democracy is making the powerful and corrupt to gain more hold and power. The poor is buried way down…

piNkAhOLiC,
:thumb:
I totally agree with you on your post and coincidentally, my father mentioned the same thing to me recently regarding your ‘theory’ of the countries that are mostly Catholic/Christian nation - having poverty in common.

Bunch of hypocrites(?): Just look at all the Presidents and politicians in the Philippines, who claims to be Catholic/Christians - they are evil-doers.

Let me share a family experience: My sister attended a Catholic mass one Sunday. She got up to receive communion/eucharist and left her purse in her seat/bench. Upon returning to her seat, her purse was gone (stolen) and was later found in a trash can; but her wallet (and everthing on it) was never found. This happened inside the church, during mass! :eek:

hunky

10-26-2005, 05:35 PM

Eto may nabasa akong article, naisip ko lang na pede tong i-implement sa pinas to accelerate growth.

http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3554071

Broadband through power cables should be implemented in the entire Philippines. We should help develop this technology and make it cheap and affordable to all Filipinos. Pag nagawa natin to, hindi na natin pede gawing excuse na hiwahiwalay kasi islands natin kaya wala tayong unity. With this technology we will have free interaction of ideas across the country, and it would help consolidate our actions, and we can finally act as a country. ewan idea lang, ano po opinion nyo?

kailangang ng stirctly enforced laws sa pinas. problema sa pinas maraming gusto ng libre. example, pagnanakaw ng tubig, kuryente, pati cable tv connection (2-3 bahay sa isang subscription). tsk tsk tsk

Dax

10-26-2005, 05:48 PM

Upon returning to her seat, her purse was gone (stolen) and was later found in a trash can; but her wallet (and everthing on it) was never found. This happened inside the church, during mass! :eek:
I bet the thief just prayed to God for forgiveness…and then steal again. :mad:
That’s one Filipino mentality that I hate most. Here’s an article on the topic:

The Filipino Catholic mentality

Every so often during Mass in the Philippines I hear priests say in their homilies, “How good God is, and that God is eternally forgiving. There is no sin so great that God will not listen to and forgive.” We Catholics have lived with that teaching – and discovered an “escape clause.” We can always ask God for forgiveness for anything wrong that we do. Even in our daily life, we often hear people say, “If God can forgive, why can’t you?”

How this religious psyche has played havoc in our values. I remember something Chavit Singson said in a TV interview: “I have done so many bad things in my life. I will not admit to killing anybody but there is one thing that I do not fail to do. Every night I ask for Gods forgiveness.” Wow, he even looked good in the eyes of the Filipino people.

http://news.inq7.net/viewpoints/index.php?index=1&story_id=52945

hunky

10-26-2005, 06:00 PM

piNkAhOLiC,
:thumb:
I totally agree with you on your post and coincidentally, my father mentioned the same thing to me recently regarding your ‘theory’ of the countries that are mostly Catholic/Christian nation - having poverty in common.

Bunch of hypocrites(?): Just look at all the Presidents and politicians in the Philippines, who claims to be Catholic/Christians - they are evil-doers.

Let me share a family experience: My sister attended a Catholic mass one Sunday. She got up to receive communion/eucharist and left her purse in her seat/bench. Upon returning to her seat, her purse was gone (stolen) and was later found in a trash can; but her wallet (and everthing on it) was never found. This happened inside the church, during mass! :eek:

that act wasn’t a catholic/christian act, period. the church didn’t say come to church and steal. it is the person who made the crime that should be held accountable. things that an institution deem inappropriate can happen even in its own backyard. i think the theories of blaming or rather correlating catholicism or christianity with poverty should stop.

hunky

10-26-2005, 07:22 PM

I bet the thief just prayed to God for forgiveness…and then steal again. :mad:
That’s one Filipino mentality that I hate most. Here’s an article on the topic:

The Filipino Catholic mentality

Every so often during Mass in the Philippines I hear priests say in their homilies, “How good God is, and that God is eternally forgiving. There is no sin so great that God will not listen to and forgive.” We Catholics have lived with that teaching – and discovered an “escape clause.” We can always ask God for forgiveness for anything wrong that we do. Even in our daily life, we often hear people say, “If God can forgive, why can’t you?”

How this religious psyche has played havoc in our values. I remember something Chavit Singson said in a TV interview: “I have done so many bad things in my life. I will not admit to killing anybody but there is one thing that I do not fail to do. Every night I ask for Gods forgiveness.” Wow, he even looked good in the eyes of the Filipino people.

http://news.inq7.net/viewpoints/index.php?index=1&story_id=52945

there’s some truth about the article but i still think it still depends on the individual. karamihan pa rin sa atin nasasabihan nito sa church but most don’t sin deliberately. how about the atheists, they don’t believe in life after death? atheists need not bother ask forgiveness and believe whatever they do won’t matter after death. so how come crime is low in japan? japan which is largely atheist (some believe in souls but they don’t have a concept of punishment after death) isn’t as bad as the Philippines. may mga tao lang talaga na walang konsyensya.

hunky

10-26-2005, 07:56 PM

we need tech growth for a higher standard of living. let’s industrialize and get entrepreneurial!

since filipino expats help the phils economy stay afloat, we should make our own party list and have a say in our in cleaning our dirty politics. imagine our lobbying power if this is possible.

some have already suggested or are doing small things that can make them proud to be a good filipino. now it’s time to dream big for the phils. let’s produce quality goods and services. let’s manufacture our own steel, cars, machineries (industrial robots) etc…

we can start by creating a Commercial bank! or mutual fund, or investment company. with this, we can help aspiring filipino invetors/entrepreneurs start their businesses. filipinos need capital. if we have this, we can buy/borrow technology then improve it.

software engineers in japan should start thinking of setting up their own companies.

even the cool/creative and excellent TF administrators can start building an auction site that can help filipinos sell their goods in and out of the country.

these might seem impossible/ridiculous but we just need to believe and start acting. filipinos need a vision and have a “Can Do!” attitude.

bara bara da ne, gomennasai:D need to do something else eh.

gabby

11-04-2005, 01:35 AM

This is a very nice thread Paul. I am sorry I haven’t read this earlier when I should have. This will give us an opportunity to at least sprinkle seeds on a very infertile ground. For a change we can think of the possible soultion instead of ranting and raving against our country.

The very reason why I don’t like the people back home is because of the seemingly inability of our leaders to hit the right button to get us off the ground.

I think the problem is the lack of real leadership. The solution is of course to find someone who could provide us strong leadership. One who knows how to find good managers to manage each department in the government. The problem is everyone wants FPJ or Susan Roces to be president.

The basic problems of the leader are:

  1. Trust = This a humungous task for a leader.

  2. Education
    2.1 Values = Pakikisama system/ the Puwede na attitude/discipline /etc…
    2.2 The National language policy.

So far in my inexperience and very untrain mind the aforementioned are the root causes of all the problems we have in the Phils.

The solution is really quite simple but very extremely hard to do. Find a good leader. If we could find a good leader he can restore TRUST in the government which would flows down to all sectors of society. If we could find a good leader he would redefine the Philippine’s sets of values and would re-examine the wisdom of having a national language policy. If only we could get our focus on the number one problem which is leadership more than half of our social, economics and political problems are solve.

gabby

11-04-2005, 01:59 AM

That is good to know that you are helping our country by wearing imported brand boxers made in the Philippines… just kidding…
Made in the Philippines but are owned by American or other foreign companies…so, Gabby- you mean to say, you buy export over-runs in the Philippines just like me? Bought them in Greenhills too?
:rolleyes:

Even if they are foreign owned they are still made in the Philippines and they generate jobs with good salary unlike the local ones. Poor qualities and the employees are almost like a slave labor because of the very low salary they are getting. Calvin Clein is not China but through Calvin Clien factory in China the Chinese have achieved hyper economic growth. Out sourcing is the name of the game. You don’t outsource you die.

I bought most of my clothes in Cebu when I was still there particulary at Mango or Linea Italia shoppe. Now that I live in Japan I bought all my things in Tokyo. When I was still in the PI I nver wore anything but Levi’s and a white shirt with boots even until now I still wear them. I don’t wear trainers but leather shoes I bought from Manel’s or Rusty Lopez.

Philippine products are actually leaping by bounce. Like Penshoppe and Loalde ( both Cebu companies) and Bench. But Filipinos should do more and shun the PUWEDE NA mentality.

Raiden

11-04-2005, 06:40 AM

Let me layout the obvious problems that the Philippines have.

  1. Greed - the desire to acquire wealth the easy way at the expense of fellow Filipinos and the country’s well being.

  2. Apathy - the lack of concern about our country’s image and future.

  3. Complacency - being satisfied of our lives accompanied by unawarenees of the actual flaws and deficiencies.

  4. Religion - used by religious leaders whom we blindly follow to impose their views and beliefs to control the the people, so they could exploit them easily.

  5. Tribalism - disunity among Filipinos by identifying more with their own subgroup.

  6. Culture and Identity Crisis - Filipinos never did really have a culture of our own. Most are inherited from previous non-Asian colonists.

Now here are the solutions in my opinion.

  1. Harshly punish and outcast all dishonest citizens.

  2. Reward the people who contribute to our society, outcast those who are a burden.

  3. Encourage healthy competitiveness, so Filipinos will realize that it pays to be a winner.

  4. A more secular, but morally conscious society will benefit our country better than a religious, but hypocritical one.

  5. We should see ourselves as “Filipinos” first, before being Ilocano, Bisaya, Tagalog, Waray, Ilonggo, Katoliko, Iglesia, Muslim, Born Again, etc.

  6. I think the solution for identity crisis is redefining ourselves, redefining our homeland. If you think about it, the Philippines is named after King Philip II of Spain. I think that causes the “we got conquered, because we are weak” feeling to be embedded in our subconscious. I think it is a good idea to change the name and flag of the Philippines so we can detach ourselves from our depressing history.

But most of all, the solutions for all our problems start with us. It starts with every Filipino.

Remember the famous line by John F. Kennedy.

“Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”

optimist

11-04-2005, 03:35 PM

marami na tayong ideas, now maybe we should start. let’s create a “Heal the Philippines Movement.” start na tayo dito sa TF (a very good vehical to generate ideas) by organizing all fil-org’s in japan, then sa lahat ng sulok na may fil-org. mukhang mahirap sa umpisa pero if we do care, why not start early? our vision would be a " to have a clean, safe, peaceful, and prosperous philippines." i know we can achieve this. it will be the time when we become proud of our country, contribute to global growth and don’t have to go overseas to feed our families.

Raiden

11-05-2005, 01:16 PM

marami na tayong ideas, now maybe we should start. let’s create a “Heal the Philippines Movement.” start na tayo dito sa TF (a very good vehical to generate ideas) by organizing all fil-org’s in japan, then sa lahat ng sulok na may fil-org. mukhang mahirap sa umpisa pero if we do care, why not start early? our vision would be a " to have a clean, safe, peaceful, and prosperous philippines." i know we can achieve this. it will be the time when we become proud of our country, contribute to global growth and don’t have to go overseas to feed our families.

I’m with you. :slight_smile:

Kaya ipon ipon pa muna ako, and acquiring more experience and knowledge para makatulong pagbalik.

depp

11-06-2005, 11:55 AM

sa dami ng problema sa atin,ay napakahirap isipin o paano umpisahan ang solusyon,pero kung gusto nating makatulong sa ating mga kababayan o bayan ay umpisahan natin sa ating sarili ang pagbabago at pag-iisip na makakatulong sa ating ekonomiya kahit sa nalakaliit na bagay,isa lang ang naisp ko,ipagmalaki mo ang ganda ng bayan mo.i^promote ang turismo sa pilipinas.sa ka-trabaho,asawa,biyena n o kaibigan.minsan kasi pag nahihingan ng opinyon tungkol sa mga ganyang bagay,ang isasagot ng ibang pilipino ay,abunai sa pilipinas.kung tutuusin,kahit naman saan sa panahon ngayon ay masasabi mong di na-safe kahit pa sa pinakamayang bansa sa mundo.
umpisahan natin sa ating mga sarili,ipagmalaki mo ang bayang sinilangan mo.i have been in cebu and palawan,next time we will try bohol.ang ganda,ganda ng pilipinas,mga kababayan ko!:slight_smile:

Stacie Fil

11-19-2005, 12:55 PM

that act wasn’t a catholic/christian act, period. the church didn’t say come to church and steal. it is the person who made the crime that should be held accountable. things that an institution deem inappropriate can happen even in its own backyard. i think the theories of blaming or rather correlating catholicism or christianity with poverty should stop.

Cool ka lang! :smiley: Just kidding, friends tayong lahat dito sa TF.

You are right thou, we shouldn’t judge right away or stereotype to situations specially to people. In our family when we were young, mas nagagalit si Nanay at pagagalitan pa ang nawalan lalo na kung ang sitwasyon ay nakaligtaan or napabayaan kaya nawala. I guess she was only teaching us kids to be more responsible with our things. But can’t blame the church or people kahit sabihin pang poder nila yon.This part reminded me of unforgetable child experience. We often passby at the church before going to class when we were elementary students(Catholic school), bec the buildings/classrooms are close by.One day I was stund to surprise and couldn’t think or move on what is the best thing to do next. It was my first time to see a person pickpocketing another young student while smilling at me seeing the incident. It happened very fast as the pickpocket made a counter flow towards us people entering the church,then quickly get off. While the person also got lost in the crowd kaya di ko na rin nasabihan na nadukutan siya and report to authority. Meron din kasing mga ganoon tao na sa ganoong place nagaabang nang malilingat at magagawan nang di tama.

The problem are us, the people/man, hence man/we should really change or begin to correct this problems. No one will do it for us and the good thing or changes we want will not just drop down from the sky like magic. What is happening now are just results like,poverty,wars,et c. Napakagaling natin mga Pinoy magdahilan. Maraming bagay din na wala sa lugar ang alam naman nating lahat na mali pero araw araw pa ring nangyayayari. Dahil naging karaniwan, worst norm na nang society. nakaw,palusot,red tape,tsismiss,bisyo, pagsisinungaling, two timer, at marami pa. Madali nating idahilan ang kahirapan, or sila nga rin eh ginagawa.Sino nga naman ang gustong magsakripisyo at mahirapan while the rest are doing the easy way and getting away with it. Kasalanan lang daw pag nahuli, kayat huli na sa akto hindi pa aamin kahit pitpitin/kuryentehin pa raw ang balls.(mga mata,he,he,he).Ang panglalamang daw sa kapwa ay gawain tiba-tiba. Talagang sobra nang malala,makapal at garapal. Naging public norm or widely accepted, at pinalalampas na bagay na lang, dahil lagi na ring problema na nakikita sa TV,movie at newspaper. Wala na rin kasing publicly nag ga guide, nagka-counter sa mga ganoong bagay…kakaunti.

All this hardship sa buhay at di patas na kalakaran are result of long time lost of man/pinoy moral values. Everyone distrust each other lalo na sa business, where the foundation should be trust. Sana we can all filipino recover our integrity. “Gagawa ka nang bagay na tama, di manlalamang at susunod sa mga patakaran… may nakakakita man o wala.”

hunky

11-19-2005, 01:58 PM

Cool ka lang! :smiley: Just kidding, friends tayong lahat dito sa TF.

oops i might have been overly assertive but i’m cool. sorry, no offense meant:D:p happy posting po:)

kisha57

11-19-2005, 08:57 PM

Sa palagay ko po:sana:

  1. leadership- honest and strong leadership ang kailangan
  2. system of implementing laws-higpitan sa pamamagitan ng pagpataw ng higit na halaga at karagdagang parusa sa lalabag.Sapat na oras sa impormation, bago ipatupad ang bagong batas.
    3.laws appropriate for our country-baguhin ang batas ayun sa pangangailangan ng bansa.
    4.transportation system-mag-isip ang mga namamahala ng simple at bagong pamamaraan.
    halimbawa: alternative routes in specially during rush hour.Color coding is also a big help.
    dagdagan ang kalsada.
    mabagal na daloy ng transporatsyon mabagal din ang takbo ng negosyo,mabagal din ang pag-unlad.
    5.security-mahirap man kailangan higpitan.lalo na sa gabi.
    6.government agency-mabilis na sistema,ok na NSO ngayon isang araw na lang.Di gaya dito sa Japan minuto lang.:slight_smile: Di na rin pwede lagay sa LTO ,okey na rin isang araw na lang kuha na lisensya.Pag failed talagang ulit.
    matagal ding natulog ang bansa natin.Walang nag-iisip ng simpleng remedyo sa simpleng problema kahit sa sariling opisina.Ang solusyon nanggagaling sa pinakamababa.Open suggestion and request.Tanggapin at gawin at ipatupad ang tama.Di naman nakikita ng opisyal ang problema kung di sasabihin ng nakakakita.
    7.Madia -malaking tulong sa mabilisang impormasyon.
    8.Schools-dagdagan ang computer at vocational courses.
    Sana naman kahit ito lang matupad.

jhunex

11-27-2005, 08:16 PM

Hi! Everyone, I just want to share what’s on my mind about this topic “solution”.

Well… I think in order 4 us 2 have a solution 2 our problem facing our nation (not only our nation but also d world’s problem) is 2 trace back or know where this problem came from. If we can be able to find d root cause of all this problem or evilness in our society, then we can be able to solve or eradicate this evilness in our society.Just 4 example a tree, if we cut one of d branch of a tree it will still grow (right or wrong), but once we cut d root or take away d root of that tree it will never ever grow again(right or wrong). So it means than even though we solve or prevent a certain problem 4 just a short period of time it will still grow or spread in our society, but once we know d root cause of this problem or evilness n then cut it or take it away from our society, I believe it will never ever grow or spread d evilness again n we can be able 2 give solution or eliminate those minor problems too. And one more thing n most important is to let God involved in our everyday life, we cannot solve or give solution 2 any problem w/ just our mind, our thinking or base on our experieces w/out involving God. Cause God is the source, the origin of our life, He is always present in d midst of each one of us, but it’s so sad that we ignore Him not letting Him 2 participate in our everyday life n sometimes misunderstood Him.

“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not in your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight” (Proverb 3: 5&6)

richie

12-15-2005, 05:08 PM

kulang tayo sa pagmamahal sa bansa natin. kung bawat Pilipino ay tunay ang pagmamahal sa sariling bansa hindi magtatagal uunlad din tayo. look at Japan, after the war and in a short period they were able to boom. kung bawat Pilipino kahit magmumula sa maliliit na bagay ay gagawin ang dapat gawin. example, dahil mahal ni juan ang sariling bayan, hindi siya magtatapon ng upos ng sigarilyo sa kalsada, gayon din sa Pasig River.

I bet I could write more, kaya lang I have to go for now…

abakitba

12-15-2005, 06:06 PM

Paul… I’m impressed.
At first I wondered why I didn’t notice this thread earlier
then I saw that you posted it a few months back. Impressed… that it’s still alive.
I have a couple of simplistic answers.

The first one is… Open markets… free trade, no protectionism.
This is misunderstood by many people, specially Filipinos who still think buying Philippine products will help our economy.

Less taxes which means smaller government, although at this point seems impossible.
Hope that the president will shut down government agencies as she has promised.
Wish I had more time to elaborate on both solutions.

But as long as we allow people to leave the Philippines in search of work abroad, the Philippines will maintain the status quo.
Who thought that sending maids, domestic helpers, entertainers, etc. is what would keep the Pinoy economy bouyant.
Wish I had more time for this… hopefully soon.

Stacie Fil

12-18-2005, 10:52 PM

Im not sure if some of you already posted, or maybe has seen the site. I think our Visayan TF members might know this place (http://www.ngkhai.net/cebu/category/main"). Actually many Pinoys are working towards giving solution to our problem. This site contribute to educate the world about the beauty and good things of one spot in the Philippines called Cebu. It counter balance the news,views, notion, and all bad things na lagi lamang nakikita sa Pinas. There’s another site related which is a photo gallery that only post pictures of beautiful places/things in Cebu also.

midnight

12-19-2005, 03:00 AM

[quote=makulit]Mahirap pag-isipan ng solusyon ang problema sa bansa natin. Never mind the politicians. Nanininawala ako na bago umunlad and bansa natin, kailangan magbago ang bawat Pilipino. Baguhin ang masasamang ugali at palitan ang mga nakagawian na.

Hi there Makulit ! saludo ako sa mga points of view mo.in fact pareho tayo ng pagiisip.i agree to every word u said !
Ako rin hirap na hirap na sa sitwasyon ko dito sa japan, matagal na rin ako dito at mulat sapul & up to now i still support my parents & help my siblings from their problems esp. sa money.ako lahat ang inaasahan nila.wala silang source of income at para silang mga pensyonado.hindi sila nahihiya at demanding pa na kesyo kulang pa ang padala ko etc…
sa totoo lang i sacrificed a lot of things for myself para lang sa kanila kasi iniisip ko paano sila. kahit ang pagaanak di ko na muna ginagawa kasi ayoko rin na hindi pa ako handa & gusto ko maibigay ko rin sa anak ko ang lahat ng kailangan nya. ayoko rin na matulad sa naging kalagayan ko pagnagka baby man ako.
Napapagod na rin ako magtrabaho pero di ko magawang huminto kasi nga may mga taong umaasa sa akin. Salita pa ng tatay ko sa akin, " oh pinagaral ko kayo ngayon kayo naman ang tumulong sa akin ".parang utang na loob pa ng anak ang pagpapaaral nya sa amin,eh di ba natural lang yon sa magulang at responsibilidad nya yon sa anak nya.Ang tatay ko lasenggero mulat sa apul,halos everyday lasing at pag nalasing na kami naman ang pagtritripan nya.Sobrang kulit at walang respeto sa mga anak niya.
Sa totoo lang, minsan parang ayoko ng magbakasyon or umuwi sa atin o sa bahay namin sa pinas kasi imbes makapagpahinga ka eh sakit ng ulo at butas na bulsa lang ang aabutin mo.Sa huli pag di mo napagbigyan ang mga magulang mo o kamaganak o kapit bahay sasabihin pa sa iyo " Hay, ang laki ng pinagbago nya no,di naman sya ganyan dati ".Ikaw pa ang lumalabas na mali sa bandang huli…kesyo walang utang na loob.kuripot,maingay ,yumabang etc…

In my own opinion, matatagalan bago umangat ang pinas kasi marami sa atin ang tamad pag nasa sariling bansa,abusado,masyad ong mapride,kahit di naman kaya magpapayabang na kaya pero wag ka puro utang naman.walang disiplina,mahilig sa chismis at mang chismis ng buhay ng iba, marami daw ang inggitera…pag may nakitang umaangat pinupull naman pababa.
the truth is,kulelat na talaga ang bansa natin sa buong Asia. dati mahirap pa sa daga ang bansang thailand pero ngayon humahabol na at maayos na rin kahit papano ang bansa nila.ive been to thailand & i saw the difference already.vietnam humahabol na rin, na dati walang wala…Sa atin wala na ngang makain,wala na ngang trabaho pero anak pa rin ng anak.Kaya di rin maiiwasan na mapulaan ang mga pilipino, nakakahiya mang aminin. Sabi nila you should be proud to be a filipino pero dahil sa maling gawain at paguugali minsan parang gusto mo talagang ikahiya kahit na ayaw mong mangyari ito.

Paul

12-19-2005, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the people who contributed positively to this thread. A I have written in my first post, this thread is not about the problems of our country but solutions. It’s so easy to write about problems and how we should trace the root of the problem, blah, blah, blah… But what we need are solutions, big or small. Even if we ourselves cannot implement them at this time, other people who might read this thread may be able to do so. So please keep on topic and post your solutions. If you want to write about the Philippines’ problems, do that on other threads. If you don’t have a solution to propose, don’t post on this thread. It’s as simple as that. Is that so difficult to understand?

Tonyang

01-30-2006, 09:44 PM

Paul, the solution is to do what we can articulate as solutions. It’s easy to write them but walking the talk is the real problem.

d_southpaw

01-31-2006, 01:08 PM

Paul, the solution is to do what we can articulate as solutions. It’s easy to write them but walking the talk is the real problem.

Agree ako diyan. Okay din naman na tingnan ang problema ng Pilipinas sa pangmalawakang pananaw. Marami-rami na ring mga oras ang nagugol sa pag-iisip at pagsusulat natin nito.

Sana ang susunod naman ay gawin nating lahat ang anumang maganda at positibong mga aksyon na kaya nating gawin.

Tonyang

01-31-2006, 10:55 PM

Dahil tayo mismo ang solusyon o pagmumulan ng mga solusyon kaya huwag na nating iasa o sabihin o isulat na dapat siya ginawa niya iyan o sila dapat maging ganoon. Tayo na at kumilos. Kuha na tayo ng isang problema at gawan na natin ng solusyon. Di kaya mas meaningful pag ganito? Suggestion ko lang ito… puwede ring baliwalain.

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