reon
02-04-2005, 09:09 PM
Nakita ko ito from another site. Pictures of tired sarariman (http://masamania.com/archives/2004/09/japanese_busine.html ).
Quote: "I want to tell you how much Japanese business man is tired. I have experience to work in other countries. So I know how hard Japanese business man work comparing with American people, Chinese people and Thailand people.
I never say that all foreign people is lazy. But I never hesitate to say that Jap is fucking hard worker. Our priority is not to live, but to work…"
!“)($”#%!! ako rin medyo pagod, siguro dahil nasa japan ako. tgif.
cyclops
02-06-2005, 01:45 PM
galing nito ah…but its true na Japanese are hard workers.
hindicyclops gaya ng ibang foreigners na ewan…hindi ko alam kung ano ang ipinunta dito sa Japan.
Pag walang trabaho nag-hahanap, ngayong meron na kung di mag-yasumi ayaw pag igihan ang trabaho and then mag rereklamo na konte o maliit lang ang suweldo. Actually nasubukan ko ng mag-trabaho night and day (am8-5:00pm & pm7-3:00am) for 5 years talaga namang nakakapagod pero hindi ko ata matandaang nag-reklamo for this…why???for me kung iisipin mo ang mga taong walang trabaho sa Pinas magpapasalamat kanalang sa DIOS na may trabaho ka.
With regards to the Japanese naman SALUDO talaga ako sa kanila kaya maunlad and bansa nila dahil nag-tatrabaho sila para sa Kompanya at ikauunlad nito and next to that is ang pamilya nila.Hindi gaya ng ibang Forigner kung makakakita ng lugar para magYASUMI magyayasumi maski hindi naman kailangan to think na merong mga taong kailangang magyasumi dahil may sakit(ahemmmm sino kayo ito?).
Muri shinaide Reon-san
cyclops 
reon
02-06-2005, 05:11 PM
okay itong website na ito:
“Japanese culture report by MasaManiA with fucking photo & poor English you never seen at boring CNN, Time or major sophisticated jurnalism.”
tama ka cyclops, noong una pa lang akong magtrabaho sa japan (hindi ko naranasang magtrabaho sa pinas), nasabi ko minsan, “#$%&!! ang hirap namang magtrabaho!” sabi ng kasama kong pinoy din, “wag kang magsabi nang ganyan. isipin mo na maraming pinoy, paggising nila sa umaga, maghahanap pa sila ng trabaho, e ikaw, meron ka na, kaya hindi ka dapat nagrereklamo.” mula noon hindi na ako nag-complain.
minsan nagtataka ako sa japan, dahil kung iisipin mo, nasa u.s. na lahat ng advantages, lahat ng mga educated na tao mula lahat ng sulok ng mundo pumupunta sa america, tapos hindi pa rin malayo ang japan (kung saan neglegible ang immigration ng educated na tao) sa kanila in terms of technology at economic power. ang eksplanasyon lang nito ay dahil mas masipag ang mga hapon kumpara sa mga amerikano (o mga tao sa ibang bansa).
maraming matutunan tayong mga pinoy sa mga hapon.
Dax
02-08-2005, 01:22 PM
marami nga sa mga hapones ang masisipag magtrabaho, at (sadly) marami pang pinoy ang tamad. dito lang siguro sa japan ang taon-taon ay maraming namamatay (non-suicide deaths) dahil sa 過労 o sobrang pagod, na kung tawagin nila ay 過労死 (death from overwork). sa pinas may narinig na ba kayong ganito?
pero may exemptions din naman. may mga 部長 class na magagaling lang magkunwaring busy! :eek: AIDS kung baga, “as if doing something”. minsan naman sa opisina maraming busy talaga sa trabaho, kaya pati ikaw ay nahihiyang umuwi kahit na natapos mo nang gawin ang trabaho mo.
marami din ang masisipag na pinoy, pero hindi lang magkaroon ng pagkakataong maipakita ang kanyang sipag at galing dahil sa kung anu-anong dahilan, lalung-lalo na dahil sa kahirapan.
pagdating sa average worker, may mga work ethics ang average hapones na sana ay matutunan din ng average pinoy. ang isang halimbawa dito ay ang attitude ng mga businesses sa kanilang customers. di naman kailangan na mapunta hanggang sa 「お客様は神様」 attitude, kundi sana ay maging conscious sila na mas mataas sa kanila ang customer, mas 偉い ang customer at hindi sila.
sa mga matatagal na dito sigurado ako napapansin din ninyo ito tuwing umuuwi kayo sa pinas. one time ang daming nakapila sa 2 counters sa isang supermarket, at ang bagal gumalaw parang hindi nababawasan! imbes na asikasuhin ng 2 cashier para mapabilis ang pila, nag-chichismisan pa! ang nakakagulat pa ay, wala man lang na nagsabi/nag 注意 na customer! parang natural na natural nang mag-chismisan ang cashiers kaya ok lang sa kanila. 
andres
02-08-2005, 04:21 PM
Nung nakita ko yung mga pictures ng tired sarariman, mixed emotions yung naramdaman ko. Oo, bilib ako sa kanila dahil sa kanilang “work ethic”. Pero on the other hand… hindi ba nakakaawa? I mean, day in, day out, ganyan ang buhay nila. Meron pang namamatay sa overwork. Is it all worth it?
Para sa akin, extreme masyado. Do you work to live or do you live to work? Marami sa mga younger generation na hapones na nakausap ko, hindi nila maatim na ganyan ang mangyayari sa kanila. Hindi naman sa tamad sila o ano, pero iba lang siguro ang values nila, at naiintindihan ko sila.
maple
02-08-2005, 08:40 PM
sa mga matatagal na dito sigurado ako napapansin din ninyo ito tuwing umuuwi kayo sa pinas. one time ang daming nakapila sa 2 counters sa isang supermarket, at ang bagal gumalaw parang hindi nababawasan! imbes na asikasuhin ng 2 cashier para mapabilis ang pila, nag-chichismisan pa! ang nakakagulat pa ay, wala man lang na nagsabi/nag 注意 na customer! parang natural na natural nang mag-chismisan ang cashiers kaya ok lang sa kanila. When Dax mentioned this supermarket cashier, naalala ko tuloy yung isang govt hospital sa Manila na merong “deadline” ang pagba-bayad ng bills kapag ilalabas na from the hospital ang pasyente.
Say 1:00PM ang naka-sulat sa bill, pero sa kadadal-dal nung mga cashiers (walang katapusang lunch break) sa hospital na ito, they’re so oblivious of time at humahabang pila, paano ka naman makaka-bayad on time? Tapos may extra charge na iyon dahil lumagpas ka sa oras. Medyo masakit sa bulsa yun since it has nothing to do with your patient’s medication naman.
And from my own experience with this govt hospital, pina-biopsy ko ang Nanay ko …ayun, namatay na lang ang Nanay ko na hindi ko man lang narinig ang resulta ng biopsy niya.
This hospital’s reason was, " the doctor who is supposed to read your mother’s biopsy result is out of the country".
Juzme, iisang histologist ba o pathologist (whichever) lang ba ang meron itong hospital na ito? O tinatamad lang yung ibang doktor na gawin yung trabaho ng iba?
Pasensya na po kayo, if I have deviated from the original topic (nihon no sarariman). :o
Maple
reon
02-08-2005, 08:44 PM
Marami sa mga younger generation na hapones na nakausap ko, hindi nila maatim na ganyan ang mangyayari sa kanila. Hindi naman sa tamad sila o ano, pero iba lang siguro ang values nila, at naiintindihan ko sila.yan din ang sinasabi ng mga older japanese na nakakusap ko: “ang mga kabataan ngayon, hindi na kasing sipag ng generation namin. noong pagkatapos ng giyera, ang hirap ng buhay, mahirap din ang trabaho, wala kaming mga washing machines kunyari, etc, etc…” e kahit si lee kuan yew yan din ang sinasab (http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id=319723)i. (http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id=319723)
“hindi naman sa tamad sila…” hindi nga sila tamad, pero hindi rin sila kasing sipag noong older generations ng japanese.
siyempre, naiintindihan ko ang iniisip mo. hindi rin naman ako ganoon ka-“sipag” magtrabaho. pero isipin din natin na hindi magiging ganito ang japan ng walang mga japanese dati na naghirap talaga sa pagtatrabaho. madali rin siguro para sa mga japanese ngayon ang magsalita ng ganyan dahil puro affluence ang nadatnan nila at hindi nila na-experience ang horrors ng giyera at ang hirap ng buhay pagkatapos.
on a lighter note, duda ako kung yung lahat ng japanese doon sa pictures ay natutulog dahil sa “pagod”. palagay ko “stoned” lang siguro ang iba o lasing.
maple
02-08-2005, 08:57 PM
on a lighter note, duda ako kung yung lahat ng japanese doon sa pictures ay natutulog dahil sa “pagod”. palagay ko “stoned” lang siguro ang iba o lasing.
Tama ka diyan reon, yung tinatawag nilang “tsukiai”, kapag nagyaya ng inuman ang Boss, parang hindi maka tanggi ang mga subordinates…drink til you drop…
Dax
02-09-2005, 04:46 PM
pero isipin din natin na hindi magiging ganito ang japan ng walang mga japanese dati na naghirap talaga sa pagtatrabaho.
oo nga nagpakahirap talaga sila noong post-WWII. siguro isang ingredient sa kanilang pag-unlad ang kanilang tinatawag na 「和」 o harmony as a group.
unfortunately sa atin sa pinas marami pa ang “buwaya”, at marami ang may crab mentality. maganda ang “tulungan ang pamilya”, pero minsan dahil dito nakakalimutan natin ang bigger picture: ang ating bansa. kailangan siguro ng balanse, we need to work more towards a common goal as a nation (ehem). kung naaalala ninyo noong asian financial crisis, nagtulong-tulong ang mga thais: binenta nila ang kanilang mga gintong alahas etc. para mapadami ang gold reserves nila. ang daming bumilib sa kanila noon, isa na ako dun!
on a lighter note, duda ako kung yung lahat ng japanese doon sa pictures ay natutulog dahil sa “pagod”. palagay ko “stoned” lang siguro ang iba o lasing.
o napuyat kakalaro ng online RPG? 
pinoybandit
02-11-2005, 02:29 AM
Mga Pinoy nga tayo dahil lahat naoobserbahan;Kabaya n in my own experience here in abroad (The USofA)I think we are all in the same boat,we’re satisfied yet still complaining for what we are now and I think is just because we are all missing our own INANG BAYAN and Hoping that our Mother Land is in the same situation or (category) to Japan,USA and other countries that is now more developed and more financially secured,look at as people;Our way of living in the Phil. right now is just very simple indeed but wacky(that’s my only OPINION). Why i said that is because we produce a highly educated worker for other countries and not for our own “INANG BAYAN” right; and this other countries loved us so much …because they knew that almost certain that a filipino worker is loyal to thier jobs but not to our own country(that is what I felt right now and I’am sorry for my self because I’am just an ordinary PENOY and I can’t help my INANG BAYAN) the BIG reason CORRUPTION , RED TAPE , DIRTY POLITICS AND what ELSE I think we have all kinds of IRREGULARITIES …So oh yah I rather work w/the sakang and white & black monkey for only ONE REASON STABILITY… … .
reon
02-12-2005, 02:54 PM
o napuyat kakalaro ng online RPG? o kakalaro ng pachinko. Bukas ba ang mga pachinko hanggang hating-gabi? Hindi pa kasi ako nakapasok sa isa.
… Why i said that is because we produce a highly educated worker for other countries and not for our own “INANG BAYAN” right; and this other countries loved us so much… We don’t really produce workers for any country any more than we produce babies (as a country) for any useful purpose.
The major reason people go out of the Philippines is also the reason many leave their small towns and go to cities like Manila and Cebu: they want jobs and a better life. There’s just too many Filipinos chasing too few jobs in the Philippines. (This PROBABLY have some connection with our lack of population control. :rolleyes: )
makulit
08-02-2005, 01:03 AM
eto naman ang napansin ko sa mga salary man. i dont know if they are really hard working. true, they stay late in office and work on weekends too.
but, i have seen them doing AIDS (as if doing something) during the day, and will start doing their job when the clock strikes 5 or so. Then at around 8 or 9, they will all go out to have drink or play bowling and go back to office at around 12 and work some more for about an hour and sleep.
some, comes to office sunday night and goes home saturday evening. pero if u’ll watch their pattern very closely, very often silang lumalabas sa gabi just to go for drinking …
ano ba ang definition ng working hard sa kanila … hindi ko talaga mag-gets. tingin ko working hard kapag hindi na sila umuuwi sa bahay nila.
no offense meant po sa mga japanese dito sa forum … ito lang po ang napansin ko …
shadowman
08-02-2005, 12:27 PM
Ah basta ako…sa pinoy pa rin ako…
di bale nang di masyado masipag basta hindi lang sakang…hihihihihi…
d pa ba ninyo nalaman na ang mga pinoy ang pinakamasaya na tao sa Asya?
i think there is a reason to do that…
say what u wanna say…but i reli dont like working hard.
working smart is better…=)
shadow rules
chepot
08-02-2005, 02:41 PM
makisabat na po sa tokis na ito…japs are hardworking daw:bowdown: palagay ko, di ata…marai akong kasama dito sa opis na panay dispalinghado…tama d and napakaunprofessional …parang stockholder…now u c them, now u dont…ako lang ang porenjer dito at tipong ako na ata ang inaasahan sa lahat…dito ko lang natutunan ang word na “STRESS” ay naku…dyuskoday… kaya ba bumabagsak ang economy ng japan…corrupt din po sila…well, thats life…may plus and minus…
NemoySpruce
08-02-2005, 02:50 PM
Sa nakita ko naman po (less than one year pa lang ako dito), simple lang magtrabaho ang hapon. Parang pareho nung kasabihang ingles ‘If its worth doing, its worth doing right’, meron din tagalog version nyan, ‘Kung gagawin mo na din lang, gawin mo na nang tama’. 20 years ago siguro, tama pa yung pagiisip na, ang hapon masipag, ang pinoy tamad pero masaya, ang amerikano tuso… 20 years ago, malawak pa ang mundo. Ngayun, nagka halo halo na mga pananaw, maraming hapon ang nakapag aral sa amerika at maramikng kano ang nakapag aral sa japan. Lumiit na ang mundo, di natin namalayan. Mas tama na ngayon ang pag iisip na, ang mga nasa probinsya, ay lumuluwas sa syudad para makahanap ng magandang opurtunidad. Ang Pilipinas ay probinsya ng mundo, ang Japan, Amerika iba pang bansa ay mga syudad. Sa ganitong pananaw, hindi na tama na sabihin na ang pinoy ay ganito, ang kano ay ganito… palagay ko eh nasa tao na. Ako ay tamad, ayaw kong magtrabaho, pero nagtratrabaho ako at ginagawa ko itong tama. Sana umunlad tayong lahat… <intro background music – imagine by john lennon>
mannequin
08-04-2005, 03:05 AM
I never say that all foreign people is lazy. But I never hesitate to say that Jap is fucking hard worker. Our priority is not to live, but to work…"
…iM 100% agRee wiTh yAh fRiEnD...juSt LikE iN thE cOmPanY wHeRe I prEsEnTLy wOrK, oFten TimEs tHeY sTaY iN thE oFFicE TiL thReE FuC*%# A.M…bEliEvE iT oR noT kAsAmA aKo sA kaNiLa…
jEeZ…! pAtAYin bA aKo…:grrr: …pErO eNjOy naMan caUse I aLwaYs LeArn sOmeThinG sPicK-aNd-sPan frOm eM…& wiLL nEvEr gEt TiRed LeaRninG neW thiNgs fRom thE hArDwOrkinG pEoPLe iN jApaN… :japanese:
Paul
08-04-2005, 09:34 AM
easy on the “f” word, mannequin. and is there something wrong with your keyboard? your caps are all over the place. you might wanna have it fixed.
stanfordmed
08-04-2005, 10:07 AM
easy on the “f” word, mannequin. and is there something wrong with your keyboard? your caps are all over the place. you might wanna have it fixed.Hey Paul,
You always amuse me with your ‘subtle’ remarks!
betong
08-04-2005, 12:49 PM
I had a japanese friend who was really doing all he could to find work outside of Japan. He studied in the States and then moved to Switzerland. We were all having drinks with friends outside when we finally asked him why was it that we wanted to get a job so badly in Switzerland.
Here’s what he said. His father was a salaryman and always left the house early in the morning and came home very late at night, even on weekends. So, he grew up never really knowing and spending time with his dad. My friend said that he didn’t want to end up like that.
In this thread, people talk about the virtues of the hard-working salaryman and how the Japanese have risen from the horror of the war to the second most important fnancial powerhouse of the world. But setting aside his family for the well-being of the economy.
I am in no way going to sacrifice my family for anything especially the economy, the good of the company. We as workers are pawns that are easily replacable. You get pregnant, you get fired. ou stick out like a nail that can’t be hammered in, you get fired (kinda like those high-school teachers who refused to stand to the national anthem being played). The company works like a well-oiled machine. No time to worry about the poor employee and his family.
So at the twilight of your life, what can you look back to and be proud of? Nothing. Just like poor old Jack Nicholson in that movie ‘About Schmidt’. He was a salaryman. He grew old alienating himself from all the people that should matter to him. And his contribution to the company. In the bin.
No way I want to end up like that.
stanfordmed
08-04-2005, 05:14 PM
A day in the life of a Japanese salaryman
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salariclock.gif 6:30 get up
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salaricommute.gif 7:30 leave for commute
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salaridesk.gif 8:50 at desk ready to begin at
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salarimeeting.gif 9:0 0 work group has brief start-of-day meeting
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salarisashimi.gif 12: 00 lunch (a lunch box from home, company cafeteria, or out at a restaurant)
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salarichart.gif 13:00 afternoon–concentrate on work
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salariclock2.gif 17:00 Part time and hourly workers go home. Overtime starts now.
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salarieating.gif 19:0 0 through 20:30 Socializing with colleagues
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salaritrain.gif 21:00 commute home
http://www.culture-at-work.com/CAWgraphics/salaribed.gif 22: 00 bedtime
Repeat 5 days a week, shorter on Saturday, with golf and outings and other company-related activities (maybe entertaining clients) on many Saturdays and Sundays.
Office Space
While noting that every company arranges space somewhat differently, here are some general patterns in U.S. and Japanese corporate offices:
U.S.
Large spaces, large desks, distance between desks/offices.
Workers have separate cubicles, separate offices.
Sit with backs to others–work requires privacy, concentration.
Each employee has a set of their own papers, information, PC etc. in their office.
To communicate with someone, use phone, or get up and walk to their desk.
Work spaces are personalized (photos, art etc.).
Windows=status
Japan
Compact use of space. Small desks, closely spaced.
Desks of a work unit are put together to form one large table.
Everyone faces the others.
Not much room for papers, etc. Must be very neat, use collective supplies.
Supervisor sits at the head, youngest sits at the foot.
You work on projects with those who sit nearest you.
Communication is continuous because you talk to or overhear everyone else’s business.
Workspaces are for work only; only a few personal touches, if any.
Window=exile from active working group.
American employees are sometime late for the important meeting or leave office before time due to the reason that his or her children become sick or are involved in school troubles, which leaves Japanese boss puzzled how to correspond with it.
In the case of Japanese employee, family circumstances are usually given the least priority and there is even a trend to boast mutually on how inattentive he has been toward the family.
One government report described Japanese salarymen as “corporate servants” instead of “corporate employees”.
mannequin
08-04-2005, 06:12 PM
easy on the “f” word, mannequin. and is there something wrong with your keyboard? your caps are all over the place. you might wanna have it fixed.“I never say that all foreign people is lazy. But I never hesitate to say that Jap is fucking hard worker. Our priority is not to live, but to work…”
hi paul…what a half-hearted welcome for a newbie like me…I think you should have atleast bestowed me a warm welcome first.
.pero thanks for reminding me about the “F” word…
but Sir, I believe hindi ko naman kinumpleto and word ko…The author of this thread had made use of the F word…(see underlined blue text before my message) … pero no one from this forum have commented nor reminded him to refrain from using it.
iam displeased…or maybe iam just over-reacting…pardon me.
v_wrangler
08-04-2005, 06:34 PM
“I never say that all foreign people is lazy. But I never hesitate to say that Jap is fucking hard worker. Our priority is not to live, but to work…”
hi paul…what a half-hearted welcome for a newbie like me…I think you should have atleast bestowed me a warm welcome first.
.pero thanks for reminding me about the “F” word…
but Sir, I believe hindi ko naman kinumpleto and word ko…The author of this thread had made use of the F word…(see underlined blue text before my message) … pero no one from this forum have commented nor reminded him to refrain from using it.
iam displeased…or maybe iam just over-reacting…pardon me.
You are over-reacting. And I am about to. Get some coffee.
Paul
08-04-2005, 07:18 PM
that was my warm welcome, mannequin. if you don’t believe me, check out the welcomes i’ve given to most of the new members here. 
oh, and i’m glad your keyboard is fine now. and i’m sorry if you’re displeased with the comment on the “f” word, it just stood out due to your very colorful post.
this is getting OT…back to regular programming folks…
reon
08-04-2005, 08:15 PM
wtf?! a warm welcome to timog mannequin! please excuse the f-word. kasalanan nung hapon yan doon sa website, hehe. :tiphat:
pointblank
08-05-2005, 11:48 AM
Agree with v_wrangler!!! (See post #22 above).
Hello, mannequin… welcome to Timog.
Just allow me to point out that the “F” word first appeared in this thread as a QUOTE. In other words, the author of this thread did not use the “F” himself. There is a big difference here.
To everybody else:
I personally do not mind occassional appearances of the “F” or “SoB” or “P-I” words if they are used to make a strong point. But I find it irritating when these words are used loosely because the writer wants to appear “cool” or “jologs”. Please lang, can we leave the “mudahfakka” (excuse me, guys - no way I can avoid using this word here to make the point) and “yah-iz-dem-brudah” terminology to the rap-crazy street guys of the Bronx? Sa totoo lang, di bagay! Para tayong trying-hard-to-be na 3rd class 'Mericans - brown na, nagpapa-itim pa!
I am “displeased” (and not just over-reacting, I am sure) by a recent tendency in Timog posts to use txt (text) language, abhorrently careless spelling and grammar mistakes both in English and Filipino, sloppy typing … atbp.
If there is one valuable trait we can learn from Japan (since this is a site for Pinoys with interests in Japan, in the first place), it would be KIKUBARI, or consideration for others.
Isipin po natin ang mga nagbabasa ng messages. Communication is a two-way street. Hindi basta’t nasabi mo ang gusto mong sabihin, tapos na. Maganda sana kung mabilis din maintindihan ng nagbabasa. Everytime we post a message, let’s put ourselves in the readers’ shoes and review our sentences to check if they are easily understood. Kahit naman hindi perfect ang English at Tagalog natin, hindi naman siguro mahirap na i-check ang mga typing mistakes o spelling.
Sorry sa site administrators - realize that this post deviates from the original topic, but this was the chance to make a point about posting rules. (Transfer niyo na lang somewhere more appropriate kung meron.)
stanfordmed
08-05-2005, 12:30 PM
May I suggest that if a member inadvertently deviate from the rules, especially the newbies, that PM be used to communicate rather than making it public to avoid static? :grouphug:
nick
08-06-2005, 07:41 AM
May I suggest that if a member inadvertently deviate from the rules, especially the newbies, that PM be used to communicate rather than making it public to avoid static? :grouphug:That’s a good suggestion, stanfordmed. Let’s give mannequin some slack, guys.
juy
08-06-2005, 12:54 PM
eh bakit po dito sa min ha… ang mga mabibigat na work pinapasa sa mga gaijin??? OO, halos gawin na nilang bahay ang factory pero puro naman magagaan lang ang ginagawa nila ah! kahit nga trabahong pang lalake eh pinagagawa sa babae… o e di hardworking din tayo!
betong
08-06-2005, 11:12 PM
eh bakit po dito sa min ha… ang mga mabibigat na work pinapasa sa mga gaijin??? OO, halos gawin na nilang bahay ang factory pero puro naman magagaan lang ang ginagawa nila ah! kahit nga trabahong pang lalake eh pinagagawa sa babae… o e di hardworking din tayo!I guess that those are the people who choose the Company first before family, though they don’t actually have anything to do at work. You leave work on time - bad, lazy worker ant. You leave late, though you haven’t done any work or hardly - good worker ant.
Nakakaasar…
reon
08-14-2005, 12:26 AM
some comments:
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“ang mga hapon daw ay hard-working.” totoo itong generalization na ito palagay ko, pero hindi ibig sabihin na lahat na lang ng nihonjin ay parepareho, kagaya nang hindi naman lahat ng pinoy ay brown ang balat. may masipag at may tamad din.
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frankly, hirap kong maintindihan ang mga negative comments tungkol sa sobrang pagtatrabaho ng mga hapon. kung papipiliin ako sa dalawang extremes, tamad o sobrang sipag, pipiliin ko ang sobrang sipag kahit kelan. siyempre, hindi naman natin kailangang pumili sa dalawang extremes; lagi namang may middle ground.
siguro naimpluwensiyahan tayo doon sa comments noong may-ari ng website: “our priority is not to live, but to work…” hindi ba tayo marunong kumilala ng exaggeration?
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@shadowman: alam kong pabiro lang ang comment mo tungkol sa mga sakang na hapon, pero sana iwasan natin ang ganitong name-calling sa timog forum. una, dahil may hapon dito; pangalawa, dahil hindi rin naman tayo matutuwa kung sabihan tayo na mga bansot at sarat ang ilog, di ba?
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@paul, v_wrangler at pointblank. i know your comments are valid and harmless, pero baka ma-misinterpret ni mannequin na hindi friendly ang mga tao dito sa timog. let’s be especially gentle with newbies. they’re new and they don’t know anyone here yet, so let’s give them some leeway. @mannequin, people here are not as bad as you think, so don’t stay away. just type normally, though.
dcat
02-06-2007, 10:03 PM
Today, I experienced for the first time what it is to be a salaryman. Nakakatawa pero hindi po biro. Lalong-lalo na sa tren sa umaga - bad trip, parang tinutulak-tulak ako kung saan-saang direksyon.:bite: Although hindi po tunay na trabaho ito kasi part-time job lang po ako, yung oras ko ay ganun din sa kanila: 10:00 to 19:00. At kasama ko sila ng tatlong magkakasunod na araw.
By 7:15 kanina, pinapauwi na nila ako, gusto ko na talagang umuwi, pero nahihiya ako so patay malisya hanggang 7:30 at sinabi ko na may tinatapos pa ako. Nafefeel ko talaga kasi ang passion at determination nila sa pagtratrabaho. Lahat sila nandun parin nung umalis ako at mukhang walang pa talaga silang balak umuwi.
Anyway, ginagawa ko lang to para makauwi sa Pilipinas ngayong bakasyon, pero, talagang matyatyaga ang mga Hapon. Ako nga eh, ngayon lang ulit siguro ako nagising ng 7 ng umaga para makaabot doon sa trabaho (kasi parating late magising kasi wala na kong masyadong pasok sa university), pero parang gusto ko ng umayaw. Pero syempre, hindi ko uurungan to, masasanay din ako sa palagay ko. Gambaranakya!
halloween
02-06-2007, 10:43 PM
Uy, galing2 naman ni Dcat, may work na. Okay lang yan kahit part-time lang, work pa rin yan. 
Oh manlibre ka na. Okay na sa 'kin ang french fries at tea, saya na ko don, promise!
Sabi nila, masama daw kapag di nanlilibre, lumalayo ang swerte, baka di magtuloy tuloy.
Ewan ko lang ha, kung totoo, yon kasi sabi nila eh.
dcat
02-06-2007, 10:56 PM
Uy, galing2 naman ni Dcat, may work na. Okay lang yan kahit part-time lang, work pa rin yan.
Oh manlibre ka na. Okay na sa 'kin ang french fries at tea, saya na ko don, promise!
Sabi nila, masama daw kapag di nanlilibre, lumalayo ang swerte, baka di magtuloy tuloy.
Ewan ko lang ha, kung totoo, yon kasi sabi nila eh.
Sige halloween-chan Punta ka dito at hindi lang fries at tea ang ililibre ko sayo…
Pero itaon nyo po sa Japan pay day ha - every 25th yata yun - kasi no money talaga ako ngayon eh, pamasahe lang meron ako at 110 yen pang onigiri sa tanghali.
halloween
02-06-2007, 11:21 PM
Yehey!!! Ililibre ako Dcat!
Sige, ngayon pa lang, mag-iipon na 'ko pamasahe kasi from my place to yours, 2 lapad pamasahe by bus.
Intayin mo ko ha, wag kang kukurap, hehhehe.
Seriously, good luck sa 'yo!
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