Dax
12-09-2005, 06:34 PM
Hi mods,
Pwede po ba ma-“pin” ninyo ang mga useful threads?
Reason:
Napapansin ko ang daming redundant threads. I know kailangang mag-search muna among the existing threads and post there before starting a new one. Pero parang marami pa din ang nauulit (e.g. about visa, jobs etc.) specially ng new faces. Siguro kung may pinned threads ay mababawasan. Just an idea.
Singit:
Btw, ang daming nagku-quote ng buong message! Yep siempre alam nyo na ito at gusto nyo din na sana iwasan na namin. Sayang ng webspace. Observation lang po.
DJchot
12-09-2005, 06:39 PM
good suggestion dax! 
fremsite
12-09-2005, 06:52 PM
ok po ang suggestion ni Dax san … para di na mahirapang maghanap mga " newbie " and " old timer " na rin na may gustong basahin ulit sa thread …like me … asan na kaya yung thread na yun ? …
puting tainga
12-09-2005, 07:34 PM
Quotes
I agree.
Better disable the Quote button.
I think some people don’t know the Post Reply button.
maple
12-09-2005, 08:18 PM
Please do not disable the Quote button. Minsan kasi mahirap nang bumalik pa sa previous replies (lalo na kapag marami nang replies).
Why don’t we just truncate the quoted reply, and just leave the essential sentences:) Teka , magulo yata itong sinabi ko:O
crispee
12-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Maaaring mahirap iwasan ang pagkakaroon ng paulit-ulit na mga topics sa TF dahil siguro sa salitang “mendokusai”. Isa pang dahilan ay kulang sa oras para kalkalin ang archives. Hindi ba mas madaling mag-start ng new thread kesa i-check muna kung meron ng existing threads? Maganda ang suggestion ni Dax, na kung pwede ay mai-‘pin’ ang mga useful threads. Kung di naman ay i-report na lang sa moderators pag may similarity ang mga topics para pagsamahin na lang.
I guess the ‘quote’ button is there for some reason. Found it very useful and if TF really need to save for space, ibalik na lang sa 200 and limitation ng private messages. Naging 500 na kasi this time.
Opinyon ko lang.
crispee
12-09-2005, 08:30 PM
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Why don’t we just truncate the quoted reply, and just leave the essential sentences:) Teka , magulo yata itong sinabi ko:O
Malinaw siya Maple:). I agree.
hotcake
12-09-2005, 10:09 PM
Hindi po ako agree sa suggestion ni puting tainga.
Hirap po kapag tinanggal ang quote, kasi papaano kung nag-reply ka sa isang thread then biglang ini-edit ng original poster ang sinabi niya. Lalabas na gumagawa ka ng ibang story or OT ang sinasabi mo sa sinasabi ng original poster.
docomo
12-09-2005, 10:28 PM
Hindi po ako agree sa suggestion ni puting tainga. Hirap po kapag tinanggal ang quote, kasi papaano kung nag-reply ka sa isang thread then biglang ini-edit ng original poster ang sinabi niya. Lalabas na gumagawa ka ng ibang story or OT ang sinasabi mo sa sinasabi ng original poster.
true… i agree … basta wag na lang i-quote lahat kasi dagdag trabaho mag scroll
nick
12-09-2005, 11:11 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, Dax.
Yes, we can pin the useful threads. The problem is, which threads are useful? Deciding this is a great task that I can’t do, nor the moderators. I have a suggestion: TF users should rate threads–right, if you feel that a thread is a good one, give it a star rating, then we’ll know which threads we should read closely and decide if they’re really useful.
Needless to say, we should not abuse this feature. If you feel a thread does nothing useful, don’t give it a 1-star rating; if fact, don’t rate it all. The function of the star ratings is to make certain threads stand out from others.
About the quotes, no we won’t disable them, although I agree that we should not quote the whole post when just a portion will do. So to other TF users: Please don’t quote whole posts unnecessarily! I hope that’ll straighten things out.
fisher
12-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Sama ako diyan ankol nick! Pasaway din ako kung minsan eh.Aym beri sori:cry:
gabby
12-10-2005, 01:54 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, Dax.
So to other TF users: Please don’t quote whole posts unnecessarily! I hope that’ll straighten things out.
Wakarimashita:O 
Ayan nag-conrform na ako ha!
gemini_19
03-13-2006, 08:26 PM
Hi mods,
Singit:
Btw, ang daming nagku-quote ng buong message! Yep siempre alam nyo na ito at gusto nyo din na sana iwasan na namin. Sayang ng webspace. Observation lang po.
oh hoh! i’m one of them, sorry po…try to reduce it…
NemoySpruce
03-14-2006, 09:44 AM
Wahihi… ako din mahilig mag quote…eh kasi minsan gusto ko paalam sa poster kung aling parte ng post nya ang reply ko… Ill try to minimize.
napuna ko lang po. Timog search facility on the top bar is reliant on google. Google search takes a while to index the pages (one month ata average time? tama po ba?) kaya po yung mga bagong threads, baka hindi lalabas sa search kaagad. plus yung google logo, pag click mo dalin ka lang sa google homepage, instead of performing the search. Baka lang nalilito mga users sa pag gamit ng search. It would also be a good idea to make the Timog specific search feature more noticeable… pero mahirap talaga maiwasan ang duped threads, I think problem talaga yan ng lahat ng forums.
bell
03-14-2006, 09:48 AM
Aray!minsan nag quote din minsan ng napakahaba…sori pow…
geminigirl
03-14-2006, 10:07 AM
Guess you’re right Sir Nick. Am a new member and I have really observed redundant topics.So just a portion of the post will do. Short but concise, and understandable. Ohayou Gozaimasu! Thanks for the suggestion, Dax.
Yes, we can pin the useful threads. The problem is, which threads are useful? Deciding this is a great task that I can’t do, nor the moderators. I have a suggestion: TF users should rate threads–right, if you feel that a thread is a good one, give it a star rating, then we’ll know which threads we should read closely and decide if they’re really useful.
Needless to say, we should not abuse this feature. If you feel a thread does nothing useful, don’t give it a 1-star rating; if fact, don’t rate it all. The function of the star ratings is to make certain threads stand out from others.
About the quotes, no we won’t disable them, although I agree that we should not quote the whole post when just a portion will do. So to other TF users: Please don’t quote whole posts unnecessarily! I hope that’ll straighten things out.
Ariana
03-22-2006, 10:35 PM
Please do not disable the Quote button. Minsan kasi mahirap nang bumalik pa sa previous replies (lalo na kapag marami nang replies).
Why don’t we just truncate the quoted reply, and just leave the essential sentences:) Teka , magulo yata itong sinabi ko:O
I agree, disabling the QUOTE reply would disregard the forums ng mga games lalo na yung mga dugtungan. Maging responsible na lang yung mga sumasagot sa QUOTE na i-edit na lang at include na lang ung specific part of the thread na gustong i-point out.
Regards to all!
sensei
05-02-2006, 05:04 PM
Gusto ko sanang mag request…
meron kasing mga thread na ganito:
question lang po
pwede bang magtanong
ask ko lang po
magtatanong lang po
help naman please
asking again
two questions please
etc.
mahirap kase mag browse, hindi mo malaman kung ano un topic, sayang un oras minsan
…pwede nio pong i-edit or rename man lang un title ng thread?
tao po…nagtatanong lang:D
striver
05-02-2006, 05:53 PM
i think there is no need to remove quote functionality here. its good and almost all forums has that functionality because its usefulness. but the problem is for the people who quote the whole post. my suggestion for this problem is to automatically cut-off the word count. for example is just 20 letters from the beginning of the sentence. then 21 above characters will not be included when you click the quote button. just an idea.
puting tainga
05-03-2006, 05:35 AM
My suggestion of disabling the quote button does not mean prohibiting quotes.
If you want to quote, you can just copy and paste it.
However, since so many people are against it, I shall not persist.
Sa halip, I support striver’s new suggestion.(Yesterda y 05:53 PM)
Syempre, if you want to quote more than (for example) 20 letters, then you can add, by doing copy & paste. (Ctr+C, Ctr+V)
Still I think it is enough to copy and past the date and time, just like I did above.
The function of it is the same as quoting all of strivers’ suggestion.
If I get lost inside COSTCO, my cellphone rings, and I tell where I am by simply saying the rack number that is hung near the ceiling, rather than mentioning all the items that are around me.
By the way, as it turned out, this thread must be one the most useful threads.
Dax
05-08-2006, 01:38 PM
my suggestion for this problem is to automatically cut-off the word count.Good idea striver. I think this will solve the problem. I’ve forwarded this to the moderators. Let’s wait for their reply. :tiphat:
rhiverz
05-08-2006, 07:18 PM
meron kasing mga thread na ganito:
question lang po
pwede bang magtanong
ask ko lang po
magtatanong lang po
help naman please
asking again
two questions please
etc.
this is quite true though some of the members cant really avoid doing this
minsan kasi it’s easier for the reader to know agad the content of the thread thru the title
itself… mas mabilis pa dahil the reader doesnt need to open and read everything pa…
kumbaga, the title says it all… precise… direct to the point.
suggestion din lang po
nick
05-08-2006, 07:59 PM
Gusto ko sanang mag request…
meron kasing mga thread na ganito:
question lang po
pwede bang magtanong
ask ko lang po
magtatanong lang po
help naman please
asking again
two questions please
etc.These kinds of posts also get on my nerves. I think the only solution to this is to just ignore them (don’t reply).
nick
05-08-2006, 08:13 PM
my suggestion for this problem is to automatically cut-off the word count. for example is just 20 letters from the beginning of the sentence. then 21 above characters will not be included when you click the quote button. just an idea.This is a good suggestion, yet hard to implement. It will probably need some tinkering of the codes.
We also don’t know how to decide the number words we need to include into the quote because only the poster knows just how much he or she needs to quote to make sense to the reader.
As an example, the above quote from striver is over 20 letters. I think I can’t make it shorter than that without losing the meaning or tone of the original poster or making it hard for the first-time reader to know exactly what am I replying to.
In short, an arbitrarily decided word count is probably not a good idea to implement.
striver
05-09-2006, 12:24 PM
This is a good suggestion, yet hard to implement. It will probably need some tinkering of the codes.
We also don’t know how to decide the number words we need to include into the quote because only the poster knows just how much he or she needs to quote to make sense to the reader.
As an example, the above quote from striver is over 20 letters. I think I can’t make it shorter than that without losing the meaning or tone of the original poster or making it hard for the first-time reader to know exactly what am I replying to.
In short, an arbitrarily decided word count is probably not a good idea to implement.
as you said, only the one who post knows just how much he or she needs to quote to make sense to the reader, its good if it always follows. but the sad thing is it doesnt. so if the problem is not to loose the whole sense of the post being quoted, another idea is (a continuation to the idea i post before), after cutting the first 10 or 20 words of a certain post, show a link or post a link at the end of the word. then when the link is click, the whole post which are being quoted will be displayed. maybe in a certain sub-window. how about that? just an idea.
just also a follow-up on the above matter, i think not only the words are needed to be cut. but also pictures. as i noticed before, when someone make a thread and attached a lot of picture on it, and that thread is displayed on the main page, that thread almost occupied the whole main page. you need a lot of scrolling to go to the button to check the other thread. a little bit mendokusai. i think one picture is enough when it is displayed on the main page. but when the whole thread will be display, that is the time to show all pictures being attached. just also an idea.
mOtt_erU
09-12-2006, 12:10 AM
…agree ako sayo Dax San.
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