abakitba
12-14-2005, 11:30 AM
Kong hindi ka Tagalog,
do you feel competent na-mag converse sa wikang Pinoy?
In other words, if you are Visayan, Ilokano, Ka Pampangan, at iba pa…
are you comfortable conversing in Tagalog? 
If you had a choice, anong language ang pili-in mo para ma intindihan ka sa iba?
JEM_jp
12-14-2005, 11:42 AM
Kong hindi ka Tagalog,
do you feel competent na-mag converse sa wikang Pinoy?
In other words, if you are Visayan, Ilokano, Ka Pampangan, at iba pa…
are you comfortable conversing in Tagalog?
If you had a choice, anong language ang pili-in mo para ma intindihan ka sa iba?
Abakitba, this is a nice question.
I’m from Cebu and has many relatives in the Visayan and Mindanao area.
I am more comfortable in english(let’s say, fluent) than speaking tagalog.
I feel weird and awkward when I speak Tagalog. I don’t know why…
lilo
12-14-2005, 11:50 AM
Ilocana ako pero i’m also comfortable speaking in Tagalog. it gets difficult lang kung nakakarinig ako ng malalalim na tagalog. when i worked in cabanatuan city, there were some words na di ko maintindihan…pero always willing naman mag-explain ang mga kaibigan ko dun kaya di masyadong problema.
When I’m in Pinas, Tagalog ang gamit ko unless kinakaausap ako in english…nakiki-english na rin ako. 
japphi
12-14-2005, 12:47 PM
Kabalen ako at pag-andoon sa hometown ay Pampango…kaya lang pag andito na…mapa-tagalog man,inglis man o kapampangan…naka kalimutan ko ang gusto kong sabihin kung minsan…lagi ay nippongo ang nasa ulo ko…pero hindi naman ako ganoon ka-fluent sa nippongo…for 16 years kasi halos nippongo na hanggang ngayon.
katty0531
12-14-2005, 12:59 PM
Ako naman syempre mas comportable sa sarili kong lenguahe, sa bisaya kahit anong bakbakan ng salita syempre malalim o hindi parang nag aaway yong dating kahit sa telepono (ito’y ayon sa aking asawa) love ko parin gamitin kumbaga at home at palagay ka kahit anong sabihin mo, sa tagalog naman ingat ako kasi minsan yong nasabi mo iba ang magiging dating doon sa tunay na tagalog magsalita kaya nag iingat habang nagsasalita.
Para naman sa sarili ko mas mabilis ko ngayong na i-express ang ibig kong sabihin in nihongo, siguro nasanay din ako konti dito, pagkasama palagi ay Hapon syempre hindi ka titigil hangga’t hindi ka satisfied sa gusto mong iparating sa kanya, sa debate namin ng asawa ko sa huli sumasang ayon ako sa kanya or sumasang ayon sya sa akin, which is good 
, hindi mapupunta sa away. Hindi talaga maiiwasan na walang debate na mangyayari dahil pinalaki ako na spoon and plate at sya naman ay hashi and tsawan.
mcgregor
12-14-2005, 01:17 PM
ang nanay ko’y batanguenya kaya gamay ko ang tagalog. nakaka-aliw kasi noong nagtatrabaho pa ako sa pinas, kapag kausap ko ang aking boss, kinakausap ko siya sa tagalog. hindi ko alam kung bakit pero pakiramdam ko hindi siya kumportable. hehe. kahit ini-english na nya ako, tagalog pa rin ang salita ko. (tigas ng ulo ko! hehe!)
pero dito sa japan, wala akong choice. dahil hindi ako marunong mag-nihongo masyado, kailangang mag-english (lalo na sa klase at kapag kausap ang mga nihonjin at ibang foreign nationals maliban sa pinoy). hala, napasabak! 
mika21
12-14-2005, 02:27 PM
im tagalog mother ko tagalog kc but my father is japanese so kahit half ako para sa kin hindi ko ipagpapalit ang sariling wika natin
jbzealot
12-14-2005, 03:07 PM
Ako naman syempre mas comportable sa sarili kong lenguahe, sa bisaya kahit anong bakbakan ng salita syempre malalim o hindi parang nag aaway yong dating kahit sa telepono (ito’y ayon sa aking asawa)…
Tama po ang inyong asawa, observed ko rin eh:)
Ako po naman eh kung nasa pinas, karaniwan sa wikang pilipino ako nakikipag-usap though I’m not a Tagalog. Sa bahay man o sa mga kaibigan. Minsan halo din ang salita ko like tagalog-ilokano, tagalog-bisaya. And since I’m always overseas, siempre english at konti sa lenggwahe ng bansang napupuntahan ko.
KangKarot
12-14-2005, 06:54 PM
ako naman po ay Taglish talaga ang usap ko
kasi marami po talagang terms ngayon na di
ko alam ang tagalog.
ingles ay OK din sa akin.
abakitba
12-15-2005, 07:59 AM
im tagalog mother ko tagalog kc but my father is japanese so kahit half ako para sa kin hindi ko ipagpapalit ang sariling wika natin
Bilib ako sa iyo Mika21
Mestiza Japon pero marunong mag Tagalog.
How did you learn. Siguro magaling ka rin mag English.
Were you born and lived here in Japan all your life?
Do you feel more Japanese or more Filipino (dito sa Japan o sa Pinas)?
Meron ka bang kaibigan tulad mo, Japinoy?
gabby
12-15-2005, 03:14 PM
Kong hindi ka Tagalog,
do you feel competent na-mag converse sa wikang Pinoy?
In other words, if you are Visayan, Ilokano, Ka Pampangan, at iba pa…
are you comfortable conversing in Tagalog?
If you had a choice, anong language ang pili-in mo para ma intindihan ka sa iba?
Of course mas-koportable ako sa akong kaugalingong sinultihan nga mao ang pulong binisaya. Gimahal ko kaayo kanang maong pinulungan kay akoa man. I don’t have anything against Tagalog because it is one of the laguages of the People in the Philippines but I hate to call it a Filipino langauge. I am Filipino but I could not associate myself with that language it is not my language and will never will be. I treat Tagalog just like a Japanese language. Between Tagalog and English, I am more at ease with English than Tagalog.
mika21
12-15-2005, 05:36 PM
i was born here in gunma ken byoin when i was 10 years old sa pinas ako lumaki with my uncle and auntie mas gusto ko sa pinas kc siyempre dito ako ipinanganak kailangan ko ring matuto how to speak japanese but deep in my heart kung ako ang papipiliin i like to be a filipino citizen japanese passport kc ako
abakitba
12-15-2005, 05:52 PM
Interesting mika21
Maraming Pinoy na gustong me Japanese or American passport.
Anong opinion mo dyan?
What do you think of them?
Kaya pala marunong kang mag-Tagalog… swerte mo.
Anong age mo nong bumalik ka sa Japan… and why not go home sa Pinas?
katty0531
12-15-2005, 07:01 PM
Matanong nga kita abakitba san, ikaw anong lengguahe kaba comportable magsalita? bago mo ilihis ang topic mo dito sa ginawa mong thread.
Anong masasabi mo sa bawat isa sa amin na sumagot ng taos puso dito sa thread mo?
Taga saan ka ba sa atin? proud ka rin ba sa salita mo?
Little Johnny
12-15-2005, 07:33 PM
Between Tagalog and English, I am more at ease with English than Tagalog.
unga, saka kapag kausap nyo si gabby, mas gugustuhin nyo ng mag-english cya kesa mag-tagalog :yuck:… hehehe… peace mate!!!
tagalog lang ang alam ko… nakaka-inggit kayo, may alam kayong ibang dialect…:mad:
abakitba
12-15-2005, 08:18 PM
Salamat for your interest KATTY-san
anong lengguahe kaba comportable magsalita?
I’m fluent in Tagalog and English, but I think I can present my thoughts better in English, which I hope, is still the medium of education in the Philippines. Spanish in the Philippines died over a hundred years ago.
bago mo ilihis ang topic mo dito sa ginawa mong thread.
Fluent sa Tagalog pero hindi ko alam ang ilihis… sorry po’. Please explain ilihis.
Anong masasabi mo sa bawat isa sa amin na sumagot ng taos puso dito sa thread mo?
Do you feel I need to comment? I think that their thoughts are very eloquent making further comment optional:)
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
At this point, I defer my answer.
proud ka rin ba sa salita mo?
I’m proud that I’m fluent in more than one Pinoy dialect. Wish I could speak Nihonggo though.
How about you KATTY… would you like to answer the questions you asked me?
Thanks again.
akiam
12-15-2005, 09:51 PM
kung ako ang papipiliin i like to be a filipino citizen japanese passport kc ako
hi… can i ask?
are you above 20 years old? kung man, sayang! you don`t have any choice na to choose your citizenship. at least before reaching 20 years old sana, you can do that.
denganda
12-16-2005, 08:12 AM
Ako, Taglish ever since, kasi sa Pinas naman, or at least in the places where I went to school & work, Taglish ang salita. I’ve never really heard anyone speak straight Tagalog or Pilipino unless may contest sa pagtatalumpati sa school. Eh di ba lahat naman ng mga sentences natin may halong English words. Even something as simple as “Pupunta ako sa mall.” eh mall is an English word.
Nakakaintindi ako ng Waray, kasi Mama ko & relatives are from the Samar-Leyte provinces. I cannot speak it though.
I’m also quite fluent & comfortable expressing myself in English, dala siguro ng hilig ko sa pagbababsa. I speak & write as well as a native born English speaker.
Raiden
12-16-2005, 08:37 AM
Fluent sa Tagalog pero hindi ko alam ang ilihis… sorry po’. Please explain ilihis.
ilihis means to deviate. e.g. to deviate from the main topic.
How about you KATTY… would you like to answer the questions you asked me?
Thanks again.
My crystal ball tells me that the answer to her questions could be found on post # 5 of this thread. 
abakitba
12-16-2005, 08:53 AM
ilihis means to deviate. e.g. to deviate from the main topic.
My crystal ball tells me that the answer to her questions could be found on post # 5 of this thread.
Ako naman syempre mas comportable sa sarili kong lenguahe, sa bisaya kahit anong bakbakan ng salita syempre malalim o hindi parang nag aaway yong dating kahit sa telepono (ito’y ayon sa aking asawa) love ko parin gamitin kumbaga at home at palagay ka kahit anong sabihin mo, sa tagalog naman ingat ako kasi minsan yong nasabi mo iba ang magiging dating doon sa tunay na tagalog magsalita kaya nag iingat habang nagsasalita.
Para naman sa sarili ko mas mabilis ko ngayong na i-express ang ibig kong sabihin in nihongo, siguro nasanay din ako konti dito, pagkasama palagi ay Hapon syempre hindi ka titigil hangga’t hindi ka satisfied sa gusto mong iparating sa kanya, sa debate namin ng asawa ko sa huli sumasang ayon ako sa kanya or sumasang ayon sya sa akin, which is good , hindi mapupunta sa away. Hindi talaga maiiwasan na walang debate na mangyayari dahil pinalaki ako na spoon and plate at sya naman ay hashi and tsawan.
Thank you Raiden and your crystal ball … specially for ilihis.
Didn’t find the answer to this question in post # 5 which I cut & pasted above. Marami kasing Bisaya eh… two thirds nang Pinas, give or take. But still, thank you.
The question for your crystal ball is…
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
Raiden
12-16-2005, 09:12 AM
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
Born and raised sa San Juan, Metro Manila.
How about you, what city in the Philippines are you from?
abakitba
12-16-2005, 09:28 AM
To Raiden
I was replying to your post about Katty’s query. She asked…
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
My answer was… At this point, I defer my answer.
I didn’t intend to ask you that question but what I meant for your crystal ball was…
where is Katty from… since she did not include it in her post (#5).
Hope I made that clear.
Thanks for your interest though.
katty0531
12-16-2005, 10:23 AM
OhayoU po!
Halatang hindi mo pa nabasa yong “pronvinces” na thread, pang masa kasi yon eh, andoon po yong sagot ko sa tanong ninyo mababasa ninyo doon kung gaano ako ka proud sa aking province.
Baka naman po itanong nyo pabalik sa akin kung anong ibig sabihin ng pang masa?
Ito ang sagot ko:
Magaling, hindi gaanong magaling mag English, mahirap, mayaman.
iisang salita ang nabibigkas, maraming salitang nabibigkas
Matalino o hindi gaanong matalino pero may pakiramdam para sa ibang tao
May malasakit sa ibang tao
Mas mahal ang iba kaysa sa sarili at higit sa lahat Pusong Pinoy!
katty0531
12-16-2005, 10:26 AM
Lubos ko po kayong pinasasalamat sa pag sagot ninyo in behalf po sa akin:D
Salamat po talaga:kiss:
Raiden
12-16-2005, 10:33 AM
To Raiden
I was replying to your post about Katty’s query. She asked…
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
My answer was… At this point, I defer my answer.
I didn’t intend to ask you that question but what I meant for your crystal ball was…
where is Katty from… since she did not include it in her post (#5).
Hope I made that clear.
Thanks for your interest though.
Why didn’t you ask that (where is Katty from) in the first place?
Ooops my fault. :doh: I’m sorry for totally overestimating your ability to write a coherent question.
Anyway. My crystal ball tells me she is from Davao City.
katty0531
12-16-2005, 10:58 AM
Salamat for your interest KATTY-san
anong lengguahe kaba comportable magsalita?
I’m fluent in Tagalog and English, but I think I can present my thoughts better in English, which I hope, is still the medium of education in the Philippines. Spanish in the Philippines died over a hundred years ago.
bago mo ilihis ang topic mo dito sa ginawa mong thread.
Fluent sa Tagalog pero hindi ko alam ang ilihis… sorry po’. Please explain ilihis.
Anong masasabi mo sa bawat isa sa amin na sumagot ng taos puso dito sa thread mo?
Do you feel I need to comment? I think that their thoughts are very eloquent making further comment optional:)
Taga saan ka ba sa atin?
At this point, I defer my answer.
proud ka rin ba sa salita mo?
I’m proud that I’m fluent in more than one Pinoy dialect. Wish I could speak Nihonggo though.
How about you KATTY… would you like to answer the questions you asked me?
Thanks again.
Hindi muna nga pala ako magpapasalamat dahil sumagot kayo sa tanong ko, kasi hindi ako na satisfied eh, kung binanggit nyo sana kung what city exactly where you came from in the Phil.
Like me, i should thank you, and word “ilihis” ay pangkaraniwang tagalog lang po iyan, very sad hindi nyo po pala alam…:mad: ako bisaya po salita, hindi fluent sa English at tagalog pero fluent po ako sa pakiramdam ng ibang tao…sana na kuha po ninyo ang ibig kong sabihin kung hindi po wala na po akong magagawa wag nyo lang itanong pabalik sa akin kasi mangalap nalang po kayo ng dictionary dyan okey?. Sayang po bilisan nyong matuto ng Nihonggo para debate tayo sa Nihonggo (ang yabang ko ano po?) joke joke joke… …at joke joke joke! biro lang po yon, pangiti lang po.
bianca marie
12-16-2005, 11:44 AM
Hey guy! Kung ang nga asawa nyo ibang lahi gusto nyo rin bang matuto ng tagalog ang nga anak nyo?
Kasi ang case dito sa Canada mas guto pa ng nga pinoy na mag-englis ang nga anak nila kisa sa tagalog. Samantalang ang nga Chinese, Russian, spanish, italians eh marunong magsalita ng first language nila ang nga anak nila.
Like my BF’s friend the mother is spanish and the father is lebanese so spanyol ang salita ng ina sa anak; Arabic naman sa ama. In a way they learn, amazing how fast they pick up.It’s good to speak at least 3 or more languages.
abakitba
12-16-2005, 12:27 PM
Why didn’t you ask that (where is Katty from) in the first place?
Ooops my fault. :doh: I’m sorry for totally overestimating your ability to write a coherent question.
Anyway. My crystal ball tells me she is from Davao City.
Yes Raiden, you’re correct, I should have just asked that question.
Then I would have been spared the sarcasm.
Someday, I hope I’ll be up to par with you as far as abilities in writing coherent questions.
I can only dream. I’ll do my best next time. Wish me luck. God bless you.
abakitba
12-16-2005, 12:33 PM
to Katty
pang masa? Ito ang sagot ko:
Magaling, hindi gaanong magaling mag English, mahirap, mayaman.
iisang salita ang nabibigkas, maraming salitang nabibigkas
Matalino o hindi gaanong matalino pero may pakiramdam para sa ibang tao
May malasakit sa ibang tao
Mas mahal ang iba kaysa sa sarili at higit sa lahat Pusong Pinoy!
Seems like your words describe ALL the Pinoys I know.
Do you know a Pinoy that does not fit your description of pang masa?
Inihaw, seems like all the Pinoys I know are like that…
I could be wrong. Sorry I made you sad by me not knowing the meaning of ilihis. Don’t know what else I can do. Absent siguro ako nong tinuro yan. But thanks for the Language lesson.
Feel free to educate me anytime… I mean that.
And I’m sorry that I don’t read all the forums here… wish I could afford the time and had the interest, but I don’t so I can’t.
jbzealot
12-16-2005, 12:47 PM
…Inihaw, seems like all the Pinoys I know are like that…
I could be wrong…
Inihaw?.. kindly elaborate further please.
abakitba
12-16-2005, 01:01 PM
Inihaw?.. kindly elaborate further please.
Elaborate on inihaw?
Bastardization of the English word… anyhow.
abakitba
12-16-2005, 01:07 PM
Or elaborate on KATTY’s answer sa… pang masa…
Magaling, hindi gaanong magaling mag English, mahirap, mayaman.
iisang salita ang nabibigkas, maraming salitang nabibigkas
Matalino o hindi gaanong matalino pero may pakiramdam para sa ibang tao
May malasakit sa ibang tao
Mas mahal ang iba kaysa sa sarili at higit sa lahat Pusong Pinoy!
I think her answer describes ALL Filipinos I know.
How about you…
do you know any Pinoy that does not belong to this description?
mika21
12-16-2005, 02:29 PM
about my opinion is wala tayong magagawa kung gustong magpalit ng citizen nila me kanyakanya tayong sariling decision diba yung iba para makasama nila family nila but i dont think na porket nagchange sila ng nationality ay iiwanan na nila ang pagkapilipino diba im proud for being a filipino at ganun din ang mga kaibigan natin dito sa forum .about sa tanong mo naman every vacation andito ako sa japan pagkagraduate ko sa highschool bumalik na ako dito para makasama ko mama at papa ko
katty0531
12-16-2005, 03:44 PM
to Katty
pang masa? Ito ang sagot ko:
Magaling, hindi gaanong magaling mag English, mahirap, mayaman.
iisang salita ang nabibigkas, maraming salitang nabibigkas
Matalino o hindi gaanong matalino pero may pakiramdam para sa ibang tao
May malasakit sa ibang tao
Mas mahal ang iba kaysa sa sarili at higit sa lahat Pusong Pinoy!
Seems like your words describe ALL the Pinoys I know.
Do you know a Pinoy that does not fit your description of pang masa?
Inihaw, seems like all the Pinoys I know are like that…
I could be wrong. Sorry I made you sad by me not knowing the meaning of ilihis. Don’t know what else I can do. Absent siguro ako nong tinuro yan. But thanks for the Language lesson.
Feel free to educate me anytime… I mean that.
And I’m sorry that I don’t read all the forums here… wish I could afford the time and had the interest, but I don’t so I can’t.
“Inihaw” absent din siguro ako noong tinuro yan.
Mahilig kasi akong mamayabas eh…hikihikhik…ay an dumating ang time nakatagpo ako ng isang matalinong katulad mo, shy tuloy ako.:bonk:
Bastardization of English word, huh…ummmmm…baha la ka na nga.
Inihaw…bastardiz ation of english word…
bastardization of english word …inihaw…ummmm m…
hehehehe…isa lang alam kong inihaw na meaning…
Masarap! paborito ng mga Hapon at Pinoy…
Gusto ko seafood…lalo na inihaw na bangus! hay,…tsalap talaga!
Ikaw, may favorite kaba sa inihaw na alam ko? just asking lang naman.
abakitba
12-16-2005, 09:31 PM
katty
Matinik ang inihaw na bangus, ma lasa din.
Pero marami rin akong kaibigan na matinik, masarap din
Paborito kong inihaw ay ‘sinugbang baboy’ at NY steak (sa grill).
Anyhow, umi ilihis na yata tayo sa topic ah…
inihaw na, hindi wikang silangan.
Anong palagay mo?
Good luck.
gabby
12-17-2005, 12:42 AM
Hey guy! Kung ang nga asawa nyo ibang lahi gusto nyo rin bang matuto ng tagalog ang nga anak nyo?
Kasi ang case dito sa Canada mas guto pa ng nga pinoy na mag-englis ang nga anak nila kisa sa tagalog. Samantalang ang nga Chinese, Russian, spanish, italians eh marunong magsalita ng first language nila ang nga anak nila.
Like my BF’s friend the mother is spanish and the father is lebanese so spanyol ang salita ng ina sa anak; Arabic naman sa ama. In a way they learn, amazing how fast they pick up.It’s good to speak at least 3 or more languages.
In my case. Hindi ko tuturuan nang tagalog ang anak ko. Never. Ang tinuturo ko sa kanya ay Cebuano at English. I want my to have English as her language base then Japanese and then Cebuano. Tagalog hindi na kailangan iyan sa anak ko. Oaky na sa akin na ako lang ang makapag-salita non. But of course if daughter wants to learn Tagalog when she gets old, Ti is okay. Walang problema sa akin.
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 07:00 PM
Abakitba, this is a nice question.
I’m from Cebu and has many relatives in the Visayan and Mindanao area.
I am more comfortable in english(let’s say, fluent) than speaking tagalog.
I feel weird and awkward when I speak Tagalog. I don’t know why…
Maybe because of your accent?(cebuano accent)
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 07:10 PM
In my case. Hindi ko tuturuan nang tagalog ang anak ko. Never. Ang tinuturo ko sa kanya ay Cebuano at English. I want my to have English as her language base then Japanese and then Cebuano. Tagalog hindi na kailangan iyan sa anak ko. Oaky na sa akin na ako lang ang makapag-salita non. But of course if daughter wants to learn Tagalog when she gets old, Ti is okay. Walang problema sa akin.
Why ayaw mong matuto ng Tagalog ang anak mo? Is something wrong learning tagalog or are you not proud of tagalog language?
Coz i see it here that they don’t want (pilipino family) that their kids would learn tagalog, English you learn that in school. I want my child to speak my language (tagalog) my BF language w/c is arabic and french if he would learn to speak at least 5 languages i would be very happy.
gabby
12-28-2005, 07:16 PM
Why ayaw mong matuto ng Tagalog ang anak mo? Is something wrong learning tagalog or are you not proud of tagalog language?
Coz i see it here that they don’t want (pilipino family) that their kids would learn tagalog, English you learn that in school. I want my child to speak my language (tagalog) my BF language w/c is arabic and french if he would learn to speak at least 5 languages i would be very happy.
Tagalog is not my language. I am not proud of it. Tagalog for me is just like English. It is a foreign tongue.
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 07:27 PM
Tagalog is not my language. I am not proud of it. Tagalog for me is just like English. It is a foreign tongue.
Im the same my parents are ilongo’s tagalog is my second language my parents never talk tagalog with us. But that’s the national language ng phils. Unless your not from Phils.
gabby
12-28-2005, 07:46 PM
Im the same my parents are ilongo’s tagalog is my second language my parents never talk tagalog with us. But that’s the national language ng phils. Unless your not from Phils.
Yes I am. But I don’t eat everything that is being immorally feed on me.
mikoboy78
12-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Tagalog pa rin…
mikoboy78
12-28-2005, 09:00 PM
as our national hero Dr. Jose P. Rizal said:
“Ang sino mang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika ay higit pa sa hayop at malansang isda”
:order:
bakit nga ba maunlad ang Japan? kasi isang factor ay ang language nila o wika… sa Pilipinas kc masyadong divided! walang unity kaya pati wika pinagtatalunan! shy on us! :doh: :shutup:
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 09:12 PM
Yes I am. But I don’t eat everything that is being immorally feed on me.
What exactly you mean by that? Your in japan they don’t want to learn to speak (the older people) english you have to learn their language. That does’nt tell anything?
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 09:21 PM
as our national hero Dr. Jose P. Rizal said:
“Ang sino mang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika ay higit pa sa hayop at malansang isda”
:order:
bakit nga ba maunlad ang Japan? kasi isang factor ay ang language nila o wika… sa Pilipinas kc masyadong divided! walang unity kaya pati wika pinagtatalunan! shy on us! :doh: :shutup:
Coz Filipino are copy cats; they never proud of what we have and yet a lot of foriegn people wants to retired in our native land (Phils). Im not generalizing everyone okey… some
Here in Canada Indias, Arabs, pakistani and the rest of migrants have a very successful community not like filipino kasi payabangan eh. So madaling salita kulilat ang pilipino dito and mind you theres tones of filipino dito:p . kasi walang unity. Like Mikoboy just said.
mikoboy78
12-28-2005, 09:23 PM
What exactly you mean by that? Your in japan they don’t want to learn to speak (the older people) english you have to learn their language. That does’nt tell anything?
db?! :yesyes:
yan ang sinasabi ko eh… sila kanina pa nagtatalo sa wika… nakakahiya kau… :yuck:
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 09:39 PM
db?! :yesyes:
yan ang sinasabi ko eh… sila kanina pa nagtatalo sa wika… nakakahiya kau… :yuck:
We know your right…And you can say i told you so…
gabby
12-28-2005, 09:57 PM
as our national hero Dr. Jose P. Rizal said:
“Ang sino mang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika ay higit pa sa hayop at malansang isda”
:order:
bakit nga ba maunlad ang Japan? kasi isang factor ay ang language nila o wika… sa Pilipinas kc masyadong divided! walang unity kaya pati wika pinagtatalunan! shy on us! :doh: :shutup:
I love my language, Cebuano but not Tagalog. I am very proud of Cebuano language.Tagalog for me is just like Nihonggo.
By the way Jose Rizal wrote his opus in Spanish, never in Tagalog. So he probably meant something about that.
Walang unity sa Pilipinas kasi pinipilit ang hyindi puwede katulad nang national language policy. The policy is impractical and oppressive.
gabby
12-28-2005, 10:02 PM
What exactly you mean by that? Your in japan they don’t want to learn to speak (the older people) english you have to learn their language. That does’nt tell anything?
I mean, Tagalog is not a Filipino language. It is fake. Filipino language is not just one but several languages which are different from each other.
Tagalog
Cebuano
Ilocano
Bicolano and others.
Nihonggo mo shaberareru yoo!
camouflage
12-28-2005, 10:43 PM
Tatay ko from Ormoc Leyte, Nanay ko from Nueve Ecija(Ilukana).
Pero sa Manila ako pinanganak at lumaki, TAGALOG ang salita ko, hindi nila ako tinuruan kasi hindi naman ako intiresado, para sakin hindi ko na kailangan mag aral pa ng ibang lingguahe dahil hindi nmn kailangan, english lang at nihonggo kailangan eh.
Summer!
12-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Tagalog is not my language. I am not proud of it. Tagalog for me is just like English. It is a foreign tongue.
Buti pa English kahit ka-level ng tagalog para sa iyo as a foreign tongue e tinuturo mo sa anak mo, so, proud kang matuto siguro ang anak mo ng English ano? Pero hindi ka proud sa tagalog, sounds like hate campaign for tagalog, while you claim that you have nothing against Tagalog…sorry but something tells me that you do…ne, gabby…di ka naman galit sa tagalog ano?
bianca marie
12-28-2005, 10:56 PM
I mean, Tagalog is not a Filipino language. It is fake. Filipino language is not just one but several languages which are different from each other.
Tagalog
Cebuano
Ilocano
Bicolano and others.
Nihonggo mo shaberareru yoo!
Tagalog is the general language, cebuano, ilongo, kapangpangan etc. are dialect not language… So when you go to manila you talk cebuano sa nga tao doon?
midnight
12-29-2005, 02:36 AM
Tagalog is the general language, cebuano, ilongo, kapangpangan etc. are dialect not language… So when you go to manila you talk cebuano sa nga tao doon?
oo nga naman i agree to that. bakit kasi parang hiyang hiya yata sa Tagalog language .Kung tunay kang Pilipino ang main na salita mo dapat ay Tagalog, 2nd lang ang eNGLISH coz its our 2nd language. Hay Naku:rolleyes:
Raiden
12-29-2005, 03:51 AM
I’m sick and tired of this language and tribalistic nonsense.
Tagalog is the official language of the Philippines.
Scoll down when you open this link to learn more about the Philippines.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rp.html
Why don’t we just have a civil war, and settle this once and for all? :grrr:
Maybe that’s what the Philippines need, it’s long over due anyway. :mad:
bianca marie
12-29-2005, 03:57 AM
I’m sick and tired of this language and tribalistic nonsense.
Tagalog is the official language of the Philippines.
Scoll down when you open this link to learn more about the Philippines.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rp.html
Why don’t we just have a civil war, and settle this once and for all? :grrr:
Maybe that’s what the Philippines need, it’s long over due anyway. :mad:
DIDO:)
fremsite
12-29-2005, 09:35 AM
[quote=Raiden]I’m sick and tired of this language and tribalistic nonsense.
Tagalog is the official language of the Philippines.
hello Raiden san … cool ka lang … namumula ka na ah ! rosy cheeks ka pala … hehehehe… yup ! i agree with you , Tagalog is the official language of the Philippines …
puting tainga
12-29-2005, 12:11 PM
Tagalog is the official language
As the constitution stipulates, “Filipino” is the official language.
(The site quoted above mentions the same.)
Tagalog is a language or dialect Filipino is based on.
I know current colloquial usage treats the two as the same.
Actually almost no body mentions the word Filipino as a name for the official language.
Sorry for my strictness in usage.
Immorally fed
“Immorally fed” might be a harsh word but I know the sentiment.
A language is not something a state can force people to use, let alone create it out of nowhere.
As for my Tagalog, I knew all the words abakitba had asked and the words members used in this thread,(and I’ve known the famous inihaw/anyhow joke since I was quite young), but I am not really comfortable in writing Tagalog as you have already noticed.
By the way, I admire abakita’s honesty in asking the word right on the spot.
I tend to let it go even if I can’t get the meaning.
gabby
12-29-2005, 06:13 PM
Buti pa English kahit ka-level ng tagalog para sa iyo as a foreign tongue e tinuturo mo sa anak mo, so, proud kang matuto siguro ang anak mo ng English ano? Pero hindi ka proud sa tagalog, sounds like hate campaign for tagalog, while you claim that you have nothing against Tagalog…sorry but something tells me that you do…ne, gabby…di ka naman galit sa tagalog ano?
Hindi ako galit sa Tagalog. Galit ako sa polisiya nang bansa natin na ipakain sa amin na hindi Tagalog speakers ang wikang Tagalog at tatawagin pang Filipino language ang Tagalog. Ang ibig sabihin niyan yung Cebuano,Tausug,Iloka no at iba pa na hindi Tagalog ay hindi Filipino language. Ang nangyari kasi ngayon, ang ethno-linguistic group na mga Tagalista ang naghahari ngayon sa atin. If I am a Tagalog speaker, abot hangang langit siguro ang pride ko but since I am A PROUD CEBUANO I don’t take pride of Tagalog because it isn’t my native tongue. What I want is to abolish the national language policy and let Cebu Schools and universities to use Cebuano as a medium of instruction. Cebuanos are better English speakers because we give priority to English than Tagalog. English is better because we are in a neutral ground. No ethno-liguistic group in the Philippines owns it. Hope you are getting my drift.
gabby
12-29-2005, 06:18 PM
Tagalog is the general language, cebuano, ilongo, kapangpangan etc. are dialect not language… So when you go to manila you talk cebuano sa nga tao doon?
Everytime I am in Manila I use English. I only speak Tagalog to my friends and acquaintances. Ganyan ka-mahal ang Tagalog ko. Hindi ko ipinamimigay sa mga hindi ko kilala. By the way Tagalog, Cebuano and Ilokano are the major languages in the Philippines. So they are equal. Dialect is if it is an off shoot of a language like Ilongo. Ilongo is a dialect that comes from the main Visayan language which is Cebuano. Cebuano is called Bisaya. Kapangpangan is not also a dialect it is a language.
docomo
12-29-2005, 06:22 PM
Hindi ako galit sa Tagalog. Galit ako sa polisiya nang bansa natin na ipakain sa amin na hindi Tagalog speakers ang wikang Tagalog at tatawagin pang Filipino language ang Tagalog. Ang ibig sabihin niyan yung Cebuano,Tausug,Iloka no at iba pa na hindi Tagalog ay hindi Filipino language. Ang nangyari kasi ngayon, ang ethno-linguistic group na mga Tagalog ang naghahari ngayon sa atin. If I am a Tagalog speaker, abot hangang langit siguro ang pride ko but since I am A PROUD CEBUANO I don’t take pride of Tagalog because it isn’t my native tongue. What I want is to abolish the national language policy and let Cebu Schools and universities to use Cebuano as a medium of instruction. Cebuanos are better English speakers because we give priority to English than Tagalog. English is better because we are in a neutral ground. No ethno-liguistic group in the Philippines owns it. Hope you are getting my drift.
… Mind you Gabby , before it could happen … dadaan ka muna sa butas ng karayom… wahehehe …
gabby
12-29-2005, 06:27 PM
I’m sick and tired of this language and tribalistic nonsense.
Tagalog is the official language of the Philippines.
Scoll down when you open this link to learn more about the Philippines.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rp.html
Why don’t we just have a civil war, and settle this once and for all? :grrr:
Maybe that’s what the Philippines need, it’s long over due anyway. :mad:
Why not? If it is the only way to straighten the oppressive national language policy out, so be it.
jbzealot
12-29-2005, 06:30 PM
Hindi ako galit sa Tagalog. Galit ako sa polisiya nang bansa natin na ipakain sa amin na hindi Tagalog speakers ang wikang Tagalog at tatawagin pang Filipino language ang Tagalog. Ang ibig sabihin niyan yung Cebuano,Tausug,Iloka no at iba pa na hindi Tagalog ay hindi Filipino language. Ang nangyari kasi ngayon, ang ethno-linguistic group na mga Tagalog ang naghahari ngayon sa atin. If I am a Tagalog speaker, abot hangang langit siguro ang pride ko but since I am A PROUD CEBUANO I don’t take pride of Tagalog because it isn’t my native tongue. What I want is to abolish the national language policy and let Cebu Schools and universities to use Cebuano as a medium of instruction. Cebuanos are better English speakers because we give priority to English than Tagalog. English is better because we are in a neutral ground. No ethno-liguistic group in the Philippines owns it. Hope you are getting my drift.
…comment lang po…
Have you ever found any country without a national language? Puting-tainga is right, every country has its own national language and it is written in their own constitution.
I am proud to be an Ilocano, and more prouder to be a pilipino with a unified common language called “Filipino” or tagalog as coloquially said.
If ever ba na tinanong ka ng isang foreigner dito sa Japan sa kung anong tawag sa lenggwahe mo sa Pilipinas, sasabihin mo agad cebuano? I think most of us here in TF, ang isasagot is Filipino or tagalog.
gabby
12-29-2005, 06:52 PM
… Mind you Gabby , before it could happen … dadaan ka muna sa butas ng karayom… wahehehe …
Alam namin iyan. Kaya nga may Republic of the Visayas na di ba? Hopefully when the constitution is re-written, we’ll have a federal system and through it, we will be free from speaking Tagalog in the Visayas and Mindanao and Northern Luzon. Yeheyyyyyyyyy!
FYI the U.S. of A has no national language policy but official language. Meaning English is used in Business and Government only. Everyone is free to use their own language like Russian,Tagalog,Span ish and others. Singapore,another multi cultural nation is not also imposing a national language policy. Other countries which do not impose a national language policy are: Canada,Sweden,UK,Ind ia,South Africa,Spain and many others. Countries that forcebly impose a national language are mostly troublesome countries like Rowanda,Somalia,Czec hoslovakia which have been totally disintegrated due to cultural problems and one these is language, and others.
Cheers!!
gabby
12-29-2005, 07:01 PM
…comment lang po…
Have you ever found any country without a national language? Puting-tainga is right, every country has its own national language and it is written in their own constitution.
I am proud to be an Ilocano, and more prouder to be a pilipino with a unified common language called “Filipino” or tagalog as coloquially said.
If ever ba na tinanong ka ng isang foreigner dito sa Japan sa kung anong tawag sa lenggwahe mo sa Pilipinas, sasabihin mo agad cebuano? I think most of us here in TF, ang isasagot is Filipino or tagalog.
I will tell the truth of course but it is going to be a long answer. Usually I will say, the Philippines is a crazy country, we have so many languages and not just Tagalog. Not all Filipinos speak Tagalog. There are probably far larger number of English speaking Filipinos than Tagalog speakers. Got my drift?
Raiden
12-30-2005, 04:33 AM
I mean, Tagalog is not a Filipino language. It is fake. Filipino language is not just one but several languages which are different from each other.
Tagalog
Cebuano
Ilocano
Bicolano and others.
Nihonggo mo shaberareru yoo!
Fake? There is nothing wrong with a country that has multiple dialects, but it is imperative to have a common language. How else could the citizens communicate with each other.
Are you saying that you have no problem with the English language, but you despise the Filipino(Tagalog based) language? You choose a foreign language over one of the native language. What were you saying about being fake again?
Raiden
12-30-2005, 08:42 AM
I am proud to be an Ilocano, and more prouder to be a pilipino with a unified common language called “Filipino” or tagalog as coloquially said.
That was an excellent statement Jbzealot. :king:
Tribalism is one of the main obstacles that Filipinos face towards achieving genuine unity.
I don’t quite understand why some tribalistic Filipinos tend to be more accepting of foreign language and culture, but loathe the other native cultures of the Philippines. The hypocrisy is appalling.:mad:
Why can’t we identify ourselves as Filipinos first, before being Tagalog, Cebuano, Bisaya, Ilocano, Kristiyano, Muslim, etc…? Why? Why?
Raiden
12-30-2005, 09:19 AM
Alam namin iyan. Kaya nga may Republic of the Visayas na di ba? Hopefully when the constitution is re-written, we’ll have a federal system and through it, we will be free from speaking Tagalog in the Visayas and Mindanao and Northern Luzon. Yeheyyyyyyyyy!
FYI the U.S. of A has no national language policy but official language. Meaning English is used in Business and Government only. Everyone is free to use their own language like Russian,Tagalog,Span ish and others. Singapore,another multi cultural nation is not also imposing a national language policy. Other countries which do not impose a national language policy are: Canada,Sweden,UK,Ind ia,South Africa,Spain and many others. Countries that forcebly impose a national language are mostly troublesome countries like Rowanda,Somalia,Czec hoslovakia which have been totally disintegrated due to cultural problems and one these is language, and others.
Cheers!!
The original settlers of the United States were primarily Germans, Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish, Swedish, French, Italians in the East Coast, and mostly Spanish settled the West Coast. Almost every ethnic group in Europe settled in what will become the United States of America. Despite of having different languages and cultures, the settlers developed a new culture based on the cultural backgrounds of the different settlers, which became the American Culture and English became the official language. They also identified themselves as Americans, rather than as Germans, Dutch, English, well you get the point.
The present day Americans are getting more and more xenophobic, and they have every right to be, because most of the new immigrants tend to isolate themselves, instead of assimilating into the American society.
Multiculturalism is beneficial for a country, only if the different ethnic groups don’t isolate themselves from the others. The idea is about the “Melting Pot” NOT about the “Tossed Salad”.
mikoboy78
12-30-2005, 11:00 AM
The original settlers of the United States were primarily Germans, Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish, Swedish, French, Italians in the East Coast, and mostly Spanish settled the West Coast. Almost every ethnic group in Europe settled in what will become the United States of America. Despite of having different languages and cultures, the settlers developed a new culture based on the cultural backgrounds of the different settlers, which became the American Culture and English became the official language. They also identified themselves as Americans, rather than as Germans, Dutch, English, well you get the point.
The present day Americans are getting more and more xenophobic, and they have every right to be, because most of the new immigrants tend to isolate themselves, instead of assimilating into the American society.
Multiculturalism is beneficial for a country, only if the different ethnic groups don’t isolate themselves from the others. The idea is about the “Melting Pot” NOT about the “Tossed Salad”.
I hope you get Raiden’s drift! hahaha :hihi:
aprilluck
12-30-2005, 02:09 PM
Ngayon ko lang nabasa ang thread na ito, puwedeng makisingit.
Heto ,maraming member ng TF na nakatira sa ibat-ibang parte ng Japan ,sa Kanto,Kinki(Kansai)T ohoku,Hokuriku, Kyushu,Chuugoku-Shikoku,Hokkaido,Lah at ng area ay may sariling mga"hougen"(dialect)but kahit na sino ang tanungin mo kung ano ang “kokugo”(language) or"hyoujungo"ang isasagot ay no other than “Nihonggo” I wonder kung mayroon nakatira sa Yamagata na magsasabing ang "hyoujungo"ay “yamagataben” or mga taga-Kansai na sasagot ang ang "kansaiben ay hyoujungo although popular ito lalo na sa T.V.
Nagkataon na ang Tagalog ang tinaguriang Pambansang Wika ,so what’s wrong with this? ,Hindi lang ang pilipinas ang maraming dialect.Kahit sa U.S. English nga but iba ang accent sa ibat-ibang states .
Wala ring masama kung hindi ka fluent magsasalita ng Tagalog dahil hindi ito ang nakagisnan mong wika .Tulad din ng walang masama kung magsalita ako ng “nihonggo” na may tono na makikitang Pilipino ako .Salamat po!
gabby
12-30-2005, 05:19 PM
Fake? There is nothing wrong with a country that has multiple dialects, but it is imperative to have a common language. How else could the citizens communicate with each other.
Are you saying that you have no problem with the English language, but you despise the Filipino(Tagalog based) language? You choose a foreign language over one of the native language. What were you saying about being fake again?
You said it yourself. There is nothing wrong indeed with a country having multiple language.
Tagalog is a fake national language for a simple reason that it isn’t the native tongue of all Filipinos. It does not represent me. I can do without the Tagalog language.
I wonder why you are trying so hard to write in English.
gabby
12-30-2005, 05:22 PM
Multiculturalism is beneficial for a country, only if the different ethnic groups don’t isolate themselves from the others. The idea is about the “Melting Pot” NOT about the “Tossed Salad”.
Are you talking about yourself?
jbzealot
12-30-2005, 05:51 PM
I will tell the truth of course but it is going to be a long answer. Usually I will say, the Philippines is a crazy country, we have so many languages and not just Tagalog. Not all Filipinos speak Tagalog. There are probably far larger number of English speaking Filipinos than Tagalog speakers. Got my drift?
…Phils. is a crazy country?..Wow!..
:rolleyes: sabagay your profile tells it… drift…er ka nga, a hobo in japan.
pero teka, pagkahaba-haba man po ang iyong isasagot, nandoon pa rin yong salitang “tagalog” di po ba?
Raiden
12-30-2005, 06:23 PM
I wonder why you are trying so hard to write in English.
Since you’re not too fond of Tagalog, I figured that you would understand it better if it’s in English, but then again, you’ve proven me wrong. :rolleyes:
Are you talking about yourself?
Reading comprehension isn’t your forte, eh?
gabby
12-30-2005, 06:36 PM
Since you’re not too fond of Tagalog, I figured that you would understand it better if it’s in English, but then again, you’ve proven me wrong. :rolleyes:
Reading comprehension isn’t your forte, eh?
LOL:p Leave it out Raiden:p I didn’t say a word. Good luck mate:)
gabby
12-30-2005, 06:38 PM
…Phils. is a crazy country?..Wow!..
:rolleyes: sabagay your profile tells it… drift…er ka nga, a hobo in japan.
pero teka, pagkahaba-haba man po ang iyong isasagot, nandoon pa rin yong salitang “tagalog” di po ba?
People who runs out of reason always resort to violence. Pathetic!:rolleyes:
Raiden
12-30-2005, 06:39 PM
LOL:p Leave it out Raiden:p I didn’t say a word. Good luck mate:)
Happy New Year to you too. You kinky boy.
gabby
12-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Happy New Year to you too. You kinky boy.
Bwa ha ha ha . . . You are very funny. Have a nice new year Raiden:)
mikoboy78
12-30-2005, 11:37 PM
got my drift you english speaking malay boy! hahaha :eeek: lol: 
i’ve only gone for about a quarter of a day mukhang madugo na ang labanan! hehe :ohlord:
but you know, this forum rocks! :tfrocks:
ang sararp basahin ng mga posts nyo, very informative! :dowave:
mabuhay ang TF at mga members nito! :bouncy:
Summer!
12-30-2005, 11:52 PM
Alam namin iyan. Kaya nga may Republic of the Visayas na di ba? Hopefully when the constitution is re-written, we’ll have a federal system and through it, we will be free from speaking Tagalog in the Visayas and Mindanao and Northern Luzon. Yeheyyyyyyyyy!
even without the constitution being re-written, you can speak Visaya to all your heart’s delight, no! wala namang pumipigil sa iyo siguro kahit sa anong parte ng Pilipinas na magsalita ka ng kung anong gusto mong lengguahe, right? Kung gusto mo ngayon pa lang, umpisahan mo na, lahat ng posts mo, gawin mo na lang Visaya kaya…you’re free…ngayon, ang problema e kung ilan sa mga TFers kaya ang makakaintindi sa iyo…that’s when you have to either use (tagalog or )Filipino or english, that’s why we have to use a common language, yung naiintindihan ng karamihan, kaya siguro ngayon merong Filipino as a common and national language, don’t take it too personally.
mikoboy78
12-31-2005, 12:12 AM
even without the constitution being re-written, you can speak Visaya to all your heart’s delight, no! wala namang pumipigil sa iyo siguro kahit sa anong parte ng Pilipinas na magsalita ka ng kung anong gusto mong lengguahe, right? Kung gusto mo ngayon pa lang, umpisahan mo na, lahat ng posts mo, gawin mo na lang Visaya kaya…you’re free…ngayon, ang problema e kung ilan sa mga TFers kaya ang makakaintindi sa iyo…that’s when you have to either use (tagalog or )Filipino or english, that’s why we have to use a common language, yung naiintindihan ng karamihan, kaya siguro ngayon merong Filipino as a common and national language, don’t take it too personally.
Well actually nagsalita, i mean nagsulat na po sya sa wikang cebuano in the other thread regarding the purpose of life… hehe:D
Summer!
12-31-2005, 12:17 AM
Well actually nagsalita, i mean nagsulat na po sya sa wikang cebuano in the other thread regarding the purpose of life… hehe:D
well mikoboy78, since he’s been dying to shove Filipino and speak his dialect instead, I’m challenging him to speak/write in his native tongue in his posts, and I mean all his posts, kung napansin mo sa pinost ko.
mikoboy78
12-31-2005, 12:20 AM
well mikoboy78, since he’s been dying to shove Filipino and speak his dialect instead, I’m challenging him to speak/write in his native tongue in his posts, and I mean all his posts, kung napansin mo sa pinost ko.
Naku against the rule ata yun eh…
Summer!
12-31-2005, 12:32 AM
Naku against the rule ata yun eh…
kaya nga, I’m just trying to emphasize the importance of a common language which is, incidentally, Filipino, ikaw ha, “you’re not getting my drift”…heheheh:D
janieserq
12-31-2005, 01:35 AM
Waaaaah naloka ako sa thread na ito:eek: basta ang alam ko Nihonggo wakaranai ako :roll:
abakitba
12-31-2005, 04:31 AM
Like it or not, English is the world’s language… THE ‘lingua franca’.
Not all Pinoys are comfortable in Tagalog…
Incompetence in English (as a nation, a people, or a person)… may result in your economic peril.
About the only exception to this is the Japanese.
Anyone else who doesn’t have a solid command of English is in trouble.
Travel anywhere in the world and you’d expect to be understood in English (right or wrong).
I can only advise the Pinoys anywhere to sharpen their English skills.
Would this be wrong?
gabby
12-31-2005, 06:24 PM
even without the constitution being re-written, you can speak Visaya to all your heart’s delight, no! wala namang pumipigil sa iyo siguro kahit sa anong parte ng Pilipinas na magsalita ka ng kung anong gusto mong lengguahe, right? Kung gusto mo ngayon pa lang, umpisahan mo na, lahat ng posts mo, gawin mo na lang Visaya kaya…you’re free…ngayon, ang problema e kung ilan sa mga TFers kaya ang makakaintindi sa iyo…that’s when you have to either use (tagalog or )Filipino or english, that’s why we have to use a common language, yung naiintindihan ng karamihan, kaya siguro ngayon merong Filipino as a common and national language, don’t take it too personally.
No Summer. Not at all. I am just expressing my political view. Of course we can. As long as the English language is there which holds the islands together the national language policy is tolerable. Don’t worry I am not desperate. Expressing ones political view is an inalinable right. Just like what I said I treat Tagalog as English or Nihongo, it isn’t my native tongue and it can never be. My language base is Cebuano and my second language is English my third is Tagalog and the fourth is Nihongo. Talk about a multi-lingual?
Happy new year Summer:p
luccia
12-31-2005, 09:08 PM
tagalog dahil yun talaga ang nakagisnan kung gamitin
but i could speak vinacular in a different region of visayan
… chabacano… taglish …english …and japanese language
but i could not speak ilokano… kapampangan…panggal atok…
bicolano…palawano. …hiligaynon…waray …ect…
pag eto na ang nakausap ko … tagalog ang gamit ko
at depende pa rin sa taong kausap ko kung feel nya mag english o sige
mag englishan tayo hanggang sa maubusan na tayo ng english
pero kung feel naman niya na mag bisaya o siya mag bisaya tayo magdamagan
pero kung feel naman ng kausap ko mag ilocano … kapampangan…at ect…
ay sorry ka na lang lolo pipi ang ang lola mo …
crispee
12-31-2005, 09:25 PM
pero kung feel naman ng kausap ko mag ilocano … kapampangan…at ect…
ay sorry ka na lang lolo pipi ang lola mo …
OT:
Paano yan ‘lucing’ e di sign language na lang pag nagharap tayo?
Happy new year
Crispee-FBI
Summer!
01-03-2006, 11:18 PM
No Summer. Not at all. I am just expressing my political view. Of course we can. As long as the English language is there which holds the islands together the national language policy is tolerable. Don’t worry I am not desperate. Expressing ones political view is an inalinable right. Just like what I said I treat Tagalog as English or Nihongo, it isn’t my native tongue and it can never be. My language base is Cebuano and my second language is English my third is Tagalog and the fourth is Nihongo. Talk about a multi-lingual?
Happy new year Summer:p
Now you’re talking…LOL…happ y new year too, gabby.
Saling Pusa
01-19-2006, 01:16 PM
Tagalog ba or Filipino language? There is a big difference… Tagalog is the native language spoken by the Tagalogs and Filipino language is Tagalog-based with Chinese, Indian, Spanish, English, Japanese, Malay and other Filipino laguages in the Philippines spoken by most Filipinos. Our national language is FILIPINO and never TAGALOG!:rolleyes:
Dax
01-19-2006, 01:22 PM
Our national language is FILIPINO and never TAGALOG!:rolleyes:
Hi Saling Pusa, welcome to TF! Tama ka dyan, hindi Tagalog ang pambansang wika! Pero ang nalilituan ko ay…
Di ba dati Pilipino, ginawang Filipino, binalik sa Pilipino yata at binalik na naman yata ulit sa Filipino?
Binago na naman ba? So alin ba talaga mga ka-TF? P or F? :nuts:
Saling Pusa
01-19-2006, 01:33 PM
Like it or not, English is the world’s language… THE ‘lingua franca’.
Not all Pinoys are comfortable in Tagalog…
Incompetence in English (as a nation, a people, or a person)… may result in your economic peril.
About the only exception to this is the Japanese.
Anyone else who doesn’t have a solid command of English is in trouble.
Travel anywhere in the world and you’d expect to be understood in English (right or wrong).
I can only advise the Pinoys anywhere to sharpen their English skills.
Would this be wrong?
Unfortunately this is not true in all parts of the world that English is the lingua franca! Go to Europe and experience to be snobbed by the Europeans when you speak in English…and you mentioned the Japanese people as the exemption to the statement you had given regarding the importance of English for economic prosperity. It is not only the Japanese but so many others (e.g, Spanish, Portugeese, Taiwanese, Koreans, French, etc are economically prosperous, so the use of English does not hold true for them!).
Most Japanese travel in different parts of the world without knowing a single word of English (except for Thank you) but they can still manage to enjoy the adventure and seldom they are in trouble! Most Pinoy know English and ironically, when they are travelling overseas they are always in trouble because they are Filipinos! So English skill is not the issue! YES it is important to sharpen your language skill but not necessary English because more people in the world speak Chinese (more than 1.2 billiion people), Spanish, French, Bahasa Indonesia, Hindi, Arabic, Japanese, etc.)
Saling Pusa
01-19-2006, 01:39 PM
Hi Saling Pusa, welcome to TF! Tama ka dyan, hindi Tagalog ang pambansang wika! Pero ang nalilituan ko ay…
Di ba dati Pilipino, ginawang Filipino, binalik sa Pilipino yata at binalik na naman yata ulit sa Filipino?
Binago na naman ba? So alin ba talaga mga ka-TF? P or F? :nuts:
FILIPINO kasi the F represents freedom to adapt and adopt! Kaya maraming words na integrated na sa ating FILIPINO language na hindi Tagalog in origin. Pati na yung mga Gay lingo kasama na rin (charing, charot, etc.).:eek:
Bond
01-19-2006, 03:08 PM
Pati na yung mga Gay lingo kasama na rin (charing, charot, etc.).:eek:
Curious lang po.
Parang hindi pa nangyayari ito, ah. Meron ka bang proof to support this?
docomo
01-19-2006, 03:12 PM
Curious lang po.
Parang hindi pa nangyayari ito, ah. Meron ka bang proof to support this?
… wala pa… pag nagkataong meron… baka pati jinologs na word damay na din… dahil wala naman pong pinagkaiba yang dalawa na yan…
adechan
01-19-2006, 03:19 PM
susubok lang po akong magsalita nang purong “Filipino”
Maligayang pagsapi sa Timog Forum kababayang Bond at Saling Pusa
Naway maging mapayapa at maligaya ang inyong pagtuloy sa TF
Naway magkaroon nang malusog na pagpapalit nang kuro kuro
Na may diplomasya, pagpapakumbaba, at pang-unawa.
Higit sa lahat ay ang pagsunod sa regulasyon ng Timog
Mabuhay!
Bond
01-19-2006, 03:23 PM
… wala pa… pag nagkataong meron… baka pati jinologs na word damay na din… dahil wala naman pong pinagkaiba yang dalawa na yan…
“Wala pa …” so ibig sabihin HINDI PA integrated. Tsaka, pano naman kayo nakakasiguro na mai-integrate ang gay lingo at jinologs sa Wikang Pilipino? Tanong lang po.
docomo
01-19-2006, 03:27 PM
“Wala pa …” so ibig sabihin HINDI PA integrated. Tsaka, pano naman kayo nakakasiguro na mai-intergrate ang gay lingo at jinologs sa Wikang Pilipino? Tanong lang po.
… kulang yung explanation ko sowee… hindi po pwedeng ma integrate yang baklang salita … parang gyera ang mangyayari… malabong mangyari …hinding hindi mangyayari po:)
Raiden
01-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Tagalog ba or Filipino language? There is a big difference… Tagalog is the native language spoken by the Tagalogs and Filipino language is Tagalog-based with Chinese, Indian, Spanish, English, Japanese, Malay and other Filipino laguages in the Philippines spoken by most Filipinos. Our national language is FILIPINO and never TAGALOG!:rolleyes:
I stand corrected. Okay, Filipino (based on Tagalog) is one of the official languages of the Philippines.
fremsite
01-19-2006, 04:48 PM
I stand corrected. Okay, Filipino (based on Tagalog) is one of the official languages of the Philippines.
ah … eh… makikisingit lang po … baka kelangan nating buhayin ulit sila Jose Rizal … Andres Bonifacio … para po makasiguro tayo kung ano po ba talaga ang pambansang wika ng pilipinas … :eek: ( pis pow ~~~~)
tfcfan
01-19-2006, 05:44 PM
ah … eh… makikisingit lang po … baka kelangan nating buhayin ulit sila Jose Rizal … Andres Bonifacio … para po makasiguro tayo kung ano po ba talaga ang pambansang wika ng pilipinas … :eek: ( pis pow ~~~~)
oo nga frem friend:) isama mo na si Manuel L. Quezon na Ama ng Wikang Pambansa.Pati ba naman wika pinagtatalunan akala ko pulitika lang at relihiyon. Ang mahalaga nagkakaunawaan ang mga tao sa dahil sa wika maging english,tagalog/filipino,intsik or nihonggo. peace to all!
DaiRyouKoJin
01-19-2006, 09:19 PM
naalala ko nung college days ko…yung prof namin sa Rizal,kinorek kmi.
Sabi nya yung Filipino daw- ginagamit daw yun pag language ang tinatanung pero pag citizenship , dapat daw ang inilalagay eh Pilipino.
fremsite
01-19-2006, 09:25 PM
naalala ko nung college days ko…yung prof namin sa Rizal,kinorek kmi.
Sabi nya yung Filipino daw- ginagamit daw yun pag language ang tinatanung pero pag citizenship , dapat daw ang inilalagay eh Pilipino.
e~~~~~~~~!!! alweyz pa naman yung Filipino ang ginagamit ko … pede na siguro … Firipinjin …
DaiRyouKoJin
01-19-2006, 09:41 PM
e~~~~~~~~!!! alweyz pa naman yung Filipino ang ginagamit ko … pede na siguro … Firipinjin …
naksanayan na kasi naten…feeling ko naman, yung word na Filipino nakuha sa pagbibigkas ng Philippines ( filipins ) kaya yung mga foreigners…Filipino s na din yung ginagamit sa atin.
abakitba
01-20-2006, 03:43 PM
One of the cruelest jokes history played on the Pinoys…
is that our country is named after King Philip… or Felipe, hence Filipinas.
Pinoys are famous for flipping (pun intended) P’s and F’s! (Fees and ePs).
If Amerikanos had the Pampanga accent… America would be called… Hamerica.
Just an observation.
What do you think?
Raiden
01-20-2006, 04:37 PM
One of the cruelest jokes history played on the Pinoys…
is that our country is named after King Philip… or Felipe, hence Filipinas.
Pinoys are famous for flipping (pun intended) P’s and F’s! (Fees and ePs).
If Amerikanos had the Pampanga accent… America would be called… Hamerica.
Just an observation.
What do you think?
Hi Abakitba,
Long time no chat ha. Kumusta na?
Anyway, to comment on that joke, ang masasabi ko lang, at least the Philippines is named after a king, which is King Philip II of Spain, unlike the Americas, which is named after an Italian cartographer, Amerigo Vespucci.
Both were great men in their respective era, but we got the better deal in my opinion.
I’m glad you brought this up, maybe I’ll start a thread to ask other members about alternative names for our country.
Dax
01-20-2006, 04:49 PM
I’m glad you brought this up, maybe I’ll start a thread to ask other members about alternative names for our country.
Good idea Raiden! How about the one mentioned here:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?Story Id=26227
Raiden
01-20-2006, 05:03 PM
Good idea Raiden! How about the one mentioned here:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?Story Id=26227
Wow!:eek: That’s a sobering article.
Thanks for the link, Sir Dax. :thumb:
abakitba
01-20-2006, 06:56 PM
How about Fhilippines…
or…
PiliFinas?
Finoy ako:-)
mOtt_erU
08-29-2006, 01:48 AM
uhmmm…kung hindi ako tagalog siguro i`ll choose being a kapampangan, coz I am,kaso hindi nga lang ako marunong magsalita.
Siguro mahirap magsalita ng tagalog pag pure kapampangan ka sanay , pero sabi nga nila
“There`s no thing such as IMPOSSIBLE”…ngayon basta eager ka ay POSSIBLE…
Kung ang lalake nga nagagwa ng maging lalake eh (joke!)LOL
kaya konting tiyaga at faith sa sarili tingin ko matututo din ng tagalog.
And will be Confident to use it.
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